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Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 13 April 2015 - 12:04

I have a friend with an 8 month old pup that was returned to her due to the owner not being able to handle it. (She should never have adopted a working line pup if she had fibromyalgia, and if my friend had known, she would not have allowed the adoption!)

He had a perfect scissor bite when his baby teeth were in. Now, he is overshot, and the lower canines are hitting the gums just behind the upper canines! One side is worse than the other.

Could this possibly be from an injury? I'm concerned because the bite is lop-sided.


by Blitzen on 13 April 2015 - 12:04

I've seen that more than once, probably not an injury. Bites aren't "set" until the dog is well over a year old and they can change throughout the dog's life. The ones most likely to go bad IMO are the tight scissors and level bites are never a good thing on a young dog since the lower jaw is the last bone to grow.  Without seeing the bite on this pup, I'm  guessing that he may end up with a wry bite since one side is  growing at a different rate than the other. Or he may end up with a correct scissors bite. One of those wait and see scenarios. One of my dogs was tight scissors when I sold him at 5 months, was level when I got him back at 4 years. 


by joanro on 13 April 2015 - 12:04

At eight months, what you see is what you get. If the jaw is growing unevenly, THAT might correct, but the occlusion is what it is by the time the dog is eight months old. I've never seen a bite go from as extreme as you describe to normal at any age. Jmo.

by Blitzen on 13 April 2015 - 13:04

I have, so I wouldn't give up just yet.


by joanro on 13 April 2015 - 13:04

Blitzen, so the bite ss is describing would be equally bad as the pup of Chrissy's.....remember that? Then every one who was up in arms for the Breed Warden breeder who bredthe pup, put it in the crate and shipped to USA for Chrissy, were wrong? The bite ss is describing would have its insissors hitting the roof of the mouth. That is so wrong, telling people to wait until the dog is over a year old. That's the same thing the us broker told Chrissy to do, Wait a year if the bite didnt correct, they would replace. Every body on this forum was outraged. You know why? Because a bite that severe is Not going to magically get normal. But waiting will give those breeders giving that advice time for the puppy and owner to bond, so they can't part with the pup.

by Blitzen on 13 April 2015 - 13:04

Joan, I think it might correct, you don't.  Let's just agree to disagree - OK?


Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 13 April 2015 - 13:04

His ears were partially up (teepee, alternating with one up/one down) when he went to his new home, and now it's looking like they aren't going to come up, either. Sad Smile


by Blitzen on 13 April 2015 - 13:04

SS what does the breeder plan to do with this pup?


by joanro on 13 April 2015 - 13:04

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kbf2hynnby9evbd/2013-07-09%2013.19.38.jpg?dl=0

This is a puppy a breeder sent me, and claimed his vet said the puppy would 'grow out ' this horrible bite occlusion. My vet is the one displaying the bite for the pictures. He said he wanted to talk to that guy's vet and learn how the pup was supposedly going to 'out grow' this. As a matter of fact, from nine weeks when she arrived, till I took her to my vet for health certificate and these pictures at about twelve weeks, her mouth was worse. BTW, I never got reimbursed for the money spent on this pup, I didn't want another pup from his female. I told they guy if he had told me before he shipped that she had a severe overbite, it would have saved the pup at least two plane rides, and being uprooted twice.

by Blitzen on 13 April 2015 - 14:04

The breeder will probably have to have some teeth extracted if the pup can't eat. The incisors might meet in a scissors in time, but the canines won't.  I've seen some pretty dramatic changes in the way the incisors meet. The GSD standard doesn't address the side occlusion, just the number of teeth and the occlusion of the incisors which could improve in this dog.  It might be possible to get a V rating on a GSD with a wonky lateral bite if the incisors meet OK. Either way, it's not a breeding candidate IMO.






 


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