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by LovexGSDs on 16 January 2015 - 05:01

I have been looking for a bi coloured German Shepherd for a bit now. I seen this ad on Kijiji, however I don't think they are bi coloured, but was wondering if someone could tell me if they are or not and how you can tell from a puppy if it is going to be bi coloured or not.
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-dogs-puppies/city-of-toronto/german-shepherd-puppies-pure-bred-bi-colour/1044995019?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

Also, I used to have a bi coloured German Shepherd, but she was sold as a bi black. Is there a difference or was the person that sold her to me using the wrong term?


Western Rider

by Western Rider on 16 January 2015 - 07:01

These appear to be black and tan in these pictures


Dawulf

by Dawulf on 16 January 2015 - 07:01

My guess would be dark (as they will carry the black gene) black and tan (and possibly creamier tan since they will have white as well). Since the dad is black, the most recessive color, it would depend on what the mothers parents (or grandparents etc.) were. This looks like a pretty typical BYB , though that could be an unfair assumption, but my *guess* is that she comes from the typical saddleback dogs and therefore the pups will be darker saddlebacks.

 

 


Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 16 January 2015 - 12:01

Lovex,  I can't access your link right now, sorry;   but  something to

watch for when looking at very young 'black with some tan'

puppies is just how much tan (or silver/cream/red/brown) there is - if it

already goes half-way up the legs, this will be a saddle-marked adult -

but to what degree, isn't easy to predict;  it will maybe end up a 'blanket-

back' and/or  a very dark dog, or it could lighten out considerably.  If you

can see both parents and any photos of dogs further back in the pedigree

that can provide you with clues ...

But if the baby puppy has very little colour on its feet & legs, maybe just on its

toes, not much sign of anything but black on its belly, AND  a light patch ('vent') 

underneath its tail, you are reasonably well-assured it will be bi-coloured as an

adult.  Be aware:  people will doubtless still argue whether it is a 'true' bi-colour

or not, depending on the extent of the lighter colours once it is full-grown and

settled in its adult coat.

Since no good dog is a bad colour, I really wouldn't concentrate too much on

what colour-pattern your chosen dog ends up !


CrashKerry

by CrashKerry on 16 January 2015 - 13:01

I have never heard of a GSD referred to as bi-black, we use bi-color. I have heard of other breeds referred that way, primarily shelties (bi-black is black and white with no tan markings, bi-blue is blue merle and white with no tan markings).


bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 16 January 2015 - 14:01

Hundmutter has it right .. Viktor below is a bicolor.  I have seen few bicolors come from litters that were not made up entirely of solid blacks and bicolors  .. the bicolors will have very little brown at birth and the litter may give the newbie the impression of being made up entirely of blacks.  You must ignore any small white spots on the feet or chest as these are controlled by another genetic factor.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=623622-viktor-vom-mystical-haus


by duke1965 on 16 January 2015 - 15:01

these are  out of solid black female and sable male

 


susie

by susie on 16 January 2015 - 17:01

"Bi-Colour" because of the black male and the white female, otherwise the puppies will look like regular black and tan later on.
The pic of Viktor linked by bubba shows a real bi-colored German Shepherd.

Do your homework and ask at least for HD/ED.
I doubt they have pedigrees ( "Bianca" = "the white one" , "Nero" = "the black one" )". In case you are looking for a pet "only", it´s not important, but health is.


Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 16 January 2015 - 21:01

I've heard "bi-black" used when the speaker means a bicolor dog carrying black recessive, and seems to be used to distinguish from a melanistic black and tan (which MANY people incorrectly call bicolor) and a true bicolor. Not saying it's technical or correct- just saying I've heard it. 


Kalibeck

by Kalibeck on 17 January 2015 - 00:01

the littlest pup in the middle was kept by us, you can see all the sables look sable, the others look bicolor, but they are melanistic black & tan.

Here she is grown up...

Hope this helps...jackie harris






 


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