How to verify an importer overseas? - Page 1

I live in the USA and state of TN.  I see many dogs some very good lines being offered. I have emailed the sellers and ask about the dogs and some names of people in the states they have sold too.  None have given me any back.  Just wandering if there is a way to verify the dogs, and people selling them.  I would hate to lose thousands of dollars in a scam. Thanks

keep asking lots of questions, videos, copies of papers etc etc etc, if they cant answer or show, just move on.

so simple, follow along;

1. short list dogs and breeders

2. book flight to their personal home and kennel facility

3. spend a few days around talking to them, looking at dogs, training, facilities, paper-work

4. feel good about all that sort out and verify all paperwork and details of tranactions

5. book flight home + dog freight on same flight

6. all sorted, last thing is pay money

7. get off flight at point of origin and go to freight terminal and pick up dog

8. drive home safely and happy with new dog and verified papers

when dealing with "experts" in the gsd world you have to break thhings down as if you are talking to a small child.

hope this helps save you heart break and financial loss like so many threads started here.

why overseas , yhere is alot good dog here in usa , bad idia , i got scamed one time with big breeder in germany learnd my lesin hard way .find good breeder here

Importing is easy. There's basically two ways you can do it. Like everything one way is harder than the other.

Method A) is the one where you use the power of the internet to screen your options, find the right one that looks good in the picture and the pedigree looks good, assuming you know what looks good is. Once you have your candidate you simply contact the owner and wire the money and poof, your import arrives in a few days. There are some pitfalls to this method. The power of the internet can be used by others that have pictures and pedigrees from the internet. They speak a foreign language which is why it's hard to get information from them and because other countries have poor economies, the dogs are cheap. So you think, and so you wire money. Poof becomes poof and you're poster #603 posting about being scammed just as poster #602 recently posted with ther Buyer Beware of post warning others of the money they sent but no dog or contact.

Method B) is a little more complex. You become involved in dogs. You campagin a few successfully. You develop some friends and associates in the breed that like what you are doing and are willing to help you. You travel to Germany 5 or 6 times a year and meet with your friends, go to their clubs, see what they are doing and become involved. As you become a part of the community, you find reliable sources for excellent examples of German Shepherds and you get a few for yourself. In a few years you have a track record of success, you know who the reliable people are and you have access to good dogs.

If you want to import a dog and you haven't invested the time and effort to do it and you don't have a track record of success, you may want to find someone that does and ask them to help.

Hi, I own a small business over in The Netherlands and because I worked in the dog-business for over 20 years here (as trainer and manager), I kind of 'made a name' for myself. For that reason only I have acces to very good IPO/Schutzhund bloodlines (& pedigree), from trustworthy owners in the sport. When I post these dogs, I get overloaded by replies of people all over the globe the first day. I go by my 'instinct' and try to pick the right person for that particular dog, as I want 'a match' between human & dog, for me to have both a happy customer and a happy K9.

Than I try to 'google' the person 'on the other site of the globe' and see if I can find anything that verifies my 'gut-feeling'. Only after verifying all the info, I will try to get his or her email address and send all the details of the dog:

1. pedigree

2. register paper of the pedigree!!!! (only the owner of the dog has this document)

3. first page of the passport of the dog (name, breed, d.o.b. and chipnumber) when the owner lost that part

4. 2 photo's of the dog (1 sitting and staring in the camera and 1 standing)

5. official quotation of a certified transport-company, in which the shipping costs are stated, on their logo-paper and - if possible - forwarded '1 on 1' from my email inbox to your email address.

Than, when the the person on the other site of the line is interested, I will send him or her references from different countries / customers I did business with (name company, name contactperson, address, phonenumber & email address), for them to be able to check and double check me and my business. 

You see, I believe that WE, the people that are offering you the great dogs, have to do everything in our power to show YOU that you can trust US. Our communication with you should be so clear & transparant, that you don't even have to think twice on purchasing that dog you have always dreamed of!

I really hope that this will help everyone from outsite Europe, who is thinking about purchasing a dog from countries like Belgium, Germany, Holland, Czech Republic etc., as well as my fellow colleagues to actually know which documents are helpfull to email to your customer, to give them that comfortable feeling. Stick to your instinct everyone.

Stay safe!

Don't know Jorien but I like his attitude!