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Red Sable

by Red Sable on 06 July 2011 - 19:07

Do you think if the death penalty wasn't looming the outcome may have been different?

by Donald Deluxe on 06 July 2011 - 19:07

"Do you think if the death penalty wasn't looming the outcome may have been different?"

No, because the jury had the opportunity to convict her on any of the lesser included manslaughter or child endangerment counts that would have only brought jail time, and she was acquitted on those charges too.

The bottom line is I think she was involved in some way in the child's death, but the prosecutor was an arrogant idiot who had nothing closely resembling a solid case against her and went ahead anyway on not much evidence.  Then at trial he had to resort to desperation moves like putting on the scent "expert" quack who tried to BS the jury, but wound up getting carved up like a side of beef by defense counsel and the defense rebuttal expert (how the judge totally failed to perform his job as gatekeeper to keep that completely unreliable testimony out of evidence in the first place in a death penalty case is beyond me - the guy should be forced to attend a continuing legal education seminar on the standards for admitting expert witness testimony before he's allowed to sit for any more trials).

BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 06 July 2011 - 20:07

Sure but you can't do that beetree as a member of the Jury. Judge Perry read the Jury a list of rules and seeing threw facts and personal opinions are not allowed.

Here's the Jury Instructions http://media.myfoxorlando.com/documents/Judge-Belvin-Perry-Jury-Instructions-in-Casey-Anthony-Murder-Trial.pdf 

As a matter of fact, I thought the prosecution couldn't prove their case from the very beginning or even during closing arguements until I heard the prosecutions rebuttal after the defense made their closing arguement. The prosecutions rebuttal was the most powerful evidence of the entire case. I was convinced after that rebuttal Casey is guilty as sin and will get the death penality. Boy was I wrong.

That's what I mean .. this whole trial was an emotional train wreck for the public.

So now we have the State of Florida who spend millions of tax payers money to find out who, when, how and why this 2 year old girl died and to get Justice for this Caylee Anthony. They prosecuted noone. So now what ? Will the State of Florida reopen this case to get a conviction, prolly not. All this for what ? 4 counts of lying to Police and the public knew this already way before this was even a possible trial. Psssst.

Now I have one of those little crazy tid-bytes of a unimagined thought why maybe we should have just waterboarded Casey, George and Cindy to save tax dollars with a romper room of DA's and prosecution errors.

by beetree on 06 July 2011 - 20:07

No, I don't see anyone else being prosecuted for the death of Caylee Anthony.

I do think that eventually there will be more to this sad saga, especially "if" Casey got away with murder. She doesn't seem like the kind to be able to keep that kind of  secret buried for the rest of her life. Or is she? Hmmmmmm...

Mindhunt

by Mindhunt on 06 July 2011 - 22:07

Beetree, I do believe the jurors were impartial and appeared to deliberate on the facts of the trial, not the reprehensible character of Casey Anthony after her daughter disappeared.  The jurors did not allow personal feelings to interfere with the facts of the case.  I also believe that George Anthony knows a lot more than he let on.  Does not mean that I feel Casey Anthony is innocent of any part of the death of her daughter either. 

The one juror who spoke out said it was a difficult decision but one ultimately based on the facts, and that the prosecution did not prove its case, because the prosecution failed to prove what happened, the jury could not decide on a punishment for what was NOT proven.

Interesting link to the judge's instructions BabyEagle, thanks


Ninja181

by Ninja181 on 06 July 2011 - 23:07

Marcia perspective on this case;

 

Worse Than O.J.!

While the stunning Casey Anthony acquittal defied logic, O.J. Simpson prosecutor Marcia Clark details how juries often delude themselves—and why this verdict trumps even her case.



 

Sick, shaken, in disbelief. As I listened to the verdicts in the Casey Anthony case, acquitting her of the homicide of her baby girl, I relived what I felt back when court clerk Deirdre Robertson read the verdicts in the Simpson case.


But this case is different. The verdict is far more shocking. Why


Ninja181

by Ninja181 on 06 July 2011 - 23:07

continued,


Because Casey Anthony was no celebrity. She never wowed the nation with her athletic prowess, shilled in countless car commercials, or entertained in film comedies. There were no racial issues, no violent Rodney King citywide riot just two years earlier.


 

Because of those factors, many predicted from the very start in the Simpson case—in fact, long before we even began to pick a jury—that it would be impossible to secure a conviction.


There was no such foreshadowing here, and few who predicted that a jury might completely acquit Casey Anthony of the killing of her daughter.


The trial itself, despite bumps and turns, never introduced any unexpected bombshells that blew up in the prosecution’s face (à la detective Mark Fuhrman’s racially charged interview tapes with a novelist). All things considered, it went pretty smoothly. Judge Belvin Perry was fantastic—a model of even-tempered, no-nonsense control who kept the flow of evidence orderly and succinct, and who never let the lawyers run amok. He even jailed and fined a spectator for acting up in court.


by beetree on 07 July 2011 - 00:07

I just read that the prosecutor, Ashton, is retiring and this was his last hurrah. Donald might just be right, the guy was going for the glory and he didn't have the proof. I do think the fact the death penalty was on the line made a difference with the jurors. If only subconsciously, the extremes are in full focus.

by Donald Deluxe on 07 July 2011 - 03:07

A Perspective on Marcia's Perspective:

ethicsalarms.com/2011/07/06/marcia-clark-exploiting-the-anthony-verdict-for-her-own-sake/

A bit harsh, but more or less on the money IMO.

ShadyLady

by ShadyLady on 07 July 2011 - 16:07

Doesn't matter BeeTree, it didn't have to be a death penalty conviction. They still had lesser counts to convict her on. No common sense. It's the CSI factor at work.

I certainly would have hung the jury. No way would I have let the other 6 jurors who believed in non-guilt, pressure me into deciding that there was only enough evidence for the lying convictions.





 


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