Make it Illegal for Police to shoot dogs!!! - Page 3

A loose dog is a dead dog.....count on it....if you love your dog, he will likely not be the lucky one to survive long enough to die of "natural causes". If  dogs roaming at large are not in danger of getting killed, why don't you sell to idiots who won't use a physical fence to keep the dog SAFE ? Because a loose dog is a dead dog, sooner or later a hunter 's bullet will find its mark, or if in the city, a white van will smack the dog flat.

BTW, I didn't say, "all dogs at large will die." That's a misquote. One of my own dogs was at large for 48 hours till I located her whereabouts and brought her home....alive and well. But the likelihood of her remaining alive indefinitely was slim....

What I'm talking about when I say loose dog, is a dog habitually allowed loose, unrestrained and habitually put at risk...a dog at large is....well you put your spin on it...a loose dog is a dead dog. Count on it...if you don't believe me, go turn three or four of your dogs loose out where they can get to the highway and leave them unsupervised every day. I know you won't do it, because you know the consequence...dead dogs. That would be the out come for "loose" dogs. Now, one of your newly acquired dogs runs off for the highway when you turn it loose for exercise because it doesn't know you....a friend intercepts the dog and brings it to you before it reaches the highway.....that was a dog "at large" which was brought back to the safety of a fence.

Double post.

Jeez Joan are you for real? No, you did not say that "all dogs at large will  die " You said "lose dog dead dog". and  then you said  "A loose dog will be killed sooner or later...it's not if, but when." SAME DIFFERENCE ,   there is no spin. 

 Orel much nechyta. 

Hans, I must be one of those silly people who actually agreed with Joan because they understand the meaning behind whats written and they understand that there are no absolutes, other then death. Your need to nit pick and call people out and argue with everything point to a deeper issue within you...something to think about!

Well, while your at it lets make it illegal for police to shoot people.. Not the answer. People and dogs need to be escorted off planet. We have plenty of laws and the police are not immune from them. Hammering those idiots who's first choice is firing on fido wether justified or not is really the only option. Tighten up on loosey goosey "I was in fear of my life" from the mean Chihuahua, & hammer those dept's and individuals who refuse. 

Well I must be silly too. I am a dogs trainer as well, and I have had a lot of dog bites over the years as well, that is part of the job. But I have shot more dogs then most. When they were loose on my property they ended up dead. I have zero tolerance for dogs that are not contained and I will not take a chance of them chasing livestock.

Right as rain, Paul. I also shoot loose dogs on my property to prevent livestock from being injured. A pack of dogs got into our ducks one night....killed about fifteen prime layers, just left them laying about without the decency to eat what they killed. Around here, a loose dog is a dead dog...count on it. AC says trap them or shoot them, they won't come out to catch a loose dog in these parts.

HD, spot on. Good post.

There you have it, shoot first ask questions later. I have livestock and have never shot one of of my neigbors dogs. I certainly would if I thought they where a immediate threat or solid future threat to my animals. Thats the same head people are upset about in the city shoot first because you can. My dogs dont allow other dogs to roam around my property or my animals, its wierd yours would. Especially shepherds.

Gigante, I have 85 acres, with hundreds of acres beyond. We have mountain lions, bear and coyote and occasional stray packs of dogs. I have seen all of them on our property, a stone's throw from the house. Your nuts if you think I would allow my dogs to run loose.....a loose dog is a dead dog. And I can guarantee you, if I left my dogs loose to roam, and they stepped foot on the neighbors farm, which is about a mile and a half from my place, he would not hesitate to shoot to kill in order to protect his cattle. My closest neighbor is three quarters of a mile away, and he would shoot my dogs thinking they were coyote. So, you see, gigante, I don't live in the city or in town, and every one who lives in these parts knows that their dogs are not allowed to harass livestock nor deer on people's land, so I would not likely be shooting at the neighbor's dogs unless they they got loose and came over here and attacked my livestock. More likely it would be a pack of feral dogs or dumped dogs, not resident neighbor dogs..While the damage is being done to livestock, loss of ducks which provide food and income with their eggs, it's too late to run around looking for the owners...they already took food out of my mouth, my dogs' mouths and money out  of my pocket.

Do you really think it is wise to leave a dog to protect a flock of 75 ducks, 50 chickens, a herd of goats and some horses from a pack of six big dogs? I think a lot more of my dogs than that....they bark from the safety of a fence and alert me to the problem, and that's their job, so that I can deal with it..usually, firing a 3030 at the strays (a  clear shot is not always available,) is very effective in running the marauding dogs off.

So yeah, I shoot first, because asking questions is a moot point. I'm talking about livelihood here, not about living in the subdivision where the neighbor's dog came over to whiz on the flower bed.

Btw, gigante, the goat herd a quarter mile up the hill on the property is pretty hard for fenced dogs to protect, but they were barking their heads off , looking up the hill through the woods in the direction of the goats a couple months ago. Turns out a bear with half grown cubs ran the goats off  through the swamp at the bottom and through the briars and pines to the back road and on to those neighbor's property...that was a good half mile from the goat pasture. The tracks in the swamp were clear as day, plus the people a mile away had a motion activated camera set up to see what was tearing into their shed at night...pictures of a sow and two cubs were snapped several nights in a row. It would take pursuing bears to motivate goats to navigate the swamp, as they were driven in that direction and circling back must have been out of the question for them. One goat had a shredded ear and scraped thigh but nothing serious. If one of my dogs had been loose, and challenged the momma bear, it would have been lights out. And if I ever get a shot at any bear here on the property it will wind up in the freezer in little white packages.