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Zenit2010

by Zenit2010 on 09 November 2014 - 16:11

I'm throwing my hat in the ring in support of Sunsilver's post about the valued place in history that vaccines hold. We must remember the facts as well as what life was like before we had immunizations to protect us and our children from some very miserable, life-threatening, and physically debilitating diseases that still exist in the environment today.  We must also remember to consider evidence-based science when evaluating a decision to vaccinate or not.  Lastly, every person is an individual and scientific studies cannot account for every single possible reaction to a vaccine or substance among a very large population of people, who on the whole benefit tremendously from receiving vaccines.  As Zdog said, it's up to each person to weigh the pros and cons for any medical treatment.  I just want to add that we must also weigh the validity of the information being provided and also consider the source of that information.  I don't just want anecdotal information; I want evidence-based information from as reliable source as I can verify.

 


by joanro on 09 November 2014 - 18:11

Too much of any good thing is bad. American culture seems to mandate; more is better. This isn't about NOT vaccinating, its about OVER vaccinating.

Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 09 November 2014 - 18:11

Joan, I agree about over-vaccinating, BUT there is a very strong anti-vaccination movement that say ANY vaccinations are bad!

Also certain vaccines DO need to be repeated (both for humans and animals) as the immunity DOES eventually fade. This lady found that out the hard way whe she contracted whooping cough as an adult!

Oh, and just a little reminder? Whooping cough (bordetella pertussis) is a first cousin to the kennel cough bordetella bacteria (bordetella bronchiosepta) so many anti-vaxxers think we don't need to vaccinate our dogs against!  Believe me, NO dog gets boarded at MY kennel without the bordotella vaccine!

 


So thanks a lot, anti-vaccine parents. You took an ethical stand against big pharma and the autism your baby has, he/she was going to get anyway. By doing so, you killed some babies and gave me, an otherwise healthy 31-year-old woman, the whooping cough in the year 2013. I understand you wanting to raise your own child as you see fit, science be damned, but you’re selfishly jeopardizing more than your own children.

Carry your baby around in a sling, feed her organic banana mash, while you drink your ethical coffee, fine, but what gives you denialists the right to put my health at risk—to cause me to catch a debilitating, humiliating, and frightening cough that, two months after I finished my last course of antibiotics (how’s that for supporting big pharma?), still makes me convulse several times a day like some kind of tragic nineteenth-century heroine?

If you have an answer, I’ll be here, whooping, while I wait.


Read more at http://www.mamamia.com.au/news/whooping-cough-in-adults/#iG0HikLGyAEkKll6.99

 


bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 09 November 2014 - 23:11

Link to another article on falsified vaccine efficacy

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/10/07/mmr-vaccine-safety.aspx

As far as whooping cough go the science suggests that the vaccine in use is ineffective and may actually cause the spread of whooping cough as those vaccinated can shed the virus without showing symptoms.

In fact, the study showed that 81 percent of 2010 California whooping cough cases in people under the age of 18 occurred in those who were fully up to date on the whooping cough vaccine. Eleven percent had received at least one pertussis containing vaccine, but not the entire recommended series, and only eight percent of those stricken were unvaccinated.

The only cases of kennel cough I have ever had in my dogs came from a dog given the nasal vaccine who spread it to another dog through close contact and they both had the disease .. the vaccinated one and the unvaccinated at the same time.  Not another case before or since.  I have a five year old male who has never been sick enough to show it a day in his life except when he was given a rabies vaccination in combination with a third distemper parvo that he didn't need .. a trip to the vet ER, x-rays, blood work and $700 later they could not find anything wrong to explain him being sick but the vets assured me it could not be the vaccinations which had occurred 1 week earlier and he had gotten sicker each day after being vaccinated.  He finally got well without any treatment because there is no treatment for a vaccine reaction.

 


Northern Maiden

by Northern Maiden on 09 November 2014 - 23:11

Every person I have ever known who has had whooping cough (and there are quite a few) has been up to date on their vaccinations. My childhood best friend almost died from whooping cough and her parents are anything but anti-vaccinations. When I was a girl, my family knew a family whose normal healthy baby died in his sleep the night after getting vaccinated. Also, my father had a cousin who was a perfectly normal healthy child, had a vaccine (I do not remember which one) and wound up with severe brain damage. The year of the H1N1 flu, the best friend of a friend who was a teacher, got the vaccine because the school he worked at insisted on all the teachers being vaccinated, the man collapsed a few hours after being vaccinated and ended up in a coma for over a week; the doctors told his wife that he had had a severe allergic reaction to the vaccine, they were unsure if he was even going to live, fortunately he did, but my friend was pretty much beside himself during that time. These first hand stories are why I am not that into vaccines; yes, they have their place, but I can quite easiliy believe that there is a lot of information about them that the government is not telling us. And, before people start jumping all over me, I and my dogs' are vaccinated, I just don't over vaccinate.






 


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