Make it Illegal for Police to shoot dogs!!! - Page 2

That is true, in an emergency situation.  The 2 situations I referenced were anything but. Though I wasn't there, I am quite confident in saying so.  With the Rottie, the police decided to escalate a non-emergency situation.  that's not really their job.  With the tx ranch dog shooting, all he had to do was step back in his car.  Rather he advanced, pulled his weapon and gunned down the dog while out to file a report.  ANything but an emergency response.

LOL!

Anyone care to guess? As to what is Cutaway's IQ? 

-80 and dropping fast.

Hired Dog,

I am not going to go into my quals nor, do I want to turn this into a pissing contest. I wouldn't comment on something I know nothing about. I don't agree with your statement "Contrary to popular belief when someone uses a gun the objective isn't to kill them, it is to stop them in their tracks" maybe that is the problem. The only time anyone should be pulling the trigger is to inflict deadly force. If the threat is serious enough to use a firearm on, it/they should be going down for keeps. You have it right with your statement at the end, "a gun present a finality". I can also go into many scenarios where just taking that .2 seconds while maybe putting myself in a little more danger resulted in not dropping the hammer on someone/thing that really didn't deserve it. That .2 seconds is what we get paid for. Take care my friend.

mtnman..

I think you misunderstood me my friend. When you shoot someone, you are trying to stop them, thats why they train everyone to shoot for the "K zone", I am all with you there, but, at the moment you pull the trigger, your objective is to STOP the threat, if that threat dies, so be it, but, you are after stopping it...am I making my self more clear this way? We are both saying the same thing, just using different words. Thank you for your response, take care as well.

I have been attacked by dogs many times and never killed one. And yes as you can see ( to dismay of some) in the end of the day I still made it home. And  I got bitten and attacked by more  dogs   then just about any LE I venture to say. But who am I?  Dog trainer. Dog trainers are not trained to  shoot dogs. And that is my point. When I get attacked by a dog I do not think shoot it even so I carry a gun. I am trained to subdue or pacify  the dog without shooting it and me getting fu..ed up too much.  

Cops an the other hand have their training. Different training. They are not dog trainers. They have training which enables them to survive in infinity of multiple adverse scenarios. Their training is  rigid and  big part of it is when  to shoot or not shoot.  Which means is it  legally correct to shoot or not shoot. Thus I think the problem is that just because it is legally justifiable to shoot does not mean that it is necessary.  I think that there lies the confusion.           But what to do.? Tell the cops use common sense and training how to avoid  to get attacked by a dog in a first place.  That is good start....That would help to the situation in TX where the cop just came to investigate unrelated burglary and ignored the dog who was getting obviously unglued in the back of the PU truck. Simple call  to the owner would stopped all sorts of problem for the farmer, now dead dog, and fired cop. His Sheriff said : We need to use common sense.."       

 But there are scenarios where relying on  the common sense is hindrance and trained reflexes need to  will kick in. That is a nature of the beast.   Common sense would dictate that woman with baby is not much of the threat. Well tell that to families of dead  soldiers from Vietnam to today's conflicts.  

 If you have a dog keep him restrained or he may get hit by car, bite someone who does not deserve it or get shot by cop or civilian  who does not want to get bitten. Is it fair? maybe yes and maybe not.  Life is not fair. Maybe life   was not intended to be that way - fair.  It is what it is. Act accordingly.​  Do not try to make it fair.  That is an apriory  failed proposition.​Instead do the things right so that you and your dog can survive in unfair world.  

 Prager Hans                                                                     

Have I injured a dog who attacked my PSD during an application, "YES" on more than one occasion! I pulled my collapsable baton and commenced hitting the hell out of him until he stopped attacking my PSD and fled the scene. I was unable to find out who the owners were.

 If need be I will shoot a dog who attacks my PSD or myself for any reason. Then if I am able to find the owner (s) who allowed their dog to violate the leash law and allowed the animal to roam unsupervised, "I" will go after them civilly and the department will also for any medical bills as well as the charges for violating the city ordinance.

Prager, you said if you have a dog, keep him restrained or he may get hit by a car or shot by policeman....... hence, "a loose dog is a dead dog." You disagree? Doesn't sound like it. 

People try to convince me, trying to b u y a puppy from me, " we don't need  fenced yard, we have four acres and hundreds of acres of woods next to our property." 

I say, yeah, and the first deer hunter who sees your dog in the woods will kill it, legally.

A loose dog will be killed sooner or later...it's not if, but when. So who wants to gamble when?

Joanro, I do not know how you figured out that I disagree with you but I do,....yes, I disagree. I guess it is a safe bet.

Why I disagree? There is no certainty in my statement,  just probability. You on the other hand and and at least 1 or maybe  2 silly people who agreed with you are certain that dog which is lose will die. "A loose dog is a dead dog..." .

Good rule of thumb for idiots who let their dogs lose  to go by, but not logically accurate nor factually honest thus doubtful and thus slightly wacky and because of that, being disregarded by some.  Truth and logic are much more powerful persuaders then over the top illogical untruth statements.  " All dogs at large will die." LOL.  Believe what you will but tht statement is false and   "May" is not "Will".  But I am not going to get myself  into pissing context over semantics here. 

Personally I do not sell dogs to anyone who will in any way indicate to me that their dogs are not going to be restrained and under control in one way or another at all times. At least we agree on that. That does not mean  that I would believe that dog which is not restrained will surely die. I have known many dogs who were lose all their life and died of natural causes in ripe age while lose in front of their dog house.  I just do not sell dogs to people who would take such chance. 

 That's all. 

 Prager Hans

I know someone who was a police officer who was called to a situation where a pit had attacked an older person. It is not easy to shoot a dog that is active or irritated. He tried to shoot the dog and ended up shooting himself in the leg. 

Paul