Protection (BSZS) 2006 - Page 1

I have received the following Protection results from Germany. Zamp Thermodos, Pakros d'Ulmental, Quantum Arminius, Orbit Hühnegrab, Maestro Osterberger Land (his brother Merlin only got sufficient), all Holtkämper Hof/See males, Vegas du Haut Mansard (brother Vadim only got sufficient), Arko Butjenter Land, Arex Herbramer Wald, Tor di Casa Nobili, Yimmy Contra, Yenno Hühnegrab, Winner Assault, Dux de Quatro Flores, Karats Ulk, Tiras Roten Feld and brother Tigger, Hannibal Stiegler Hof, Nando della Valcuvia, Xaro d'Ulmental, Mischale Kahler Heide, Ingodds Agassi, Kalli Werther Mühle, Losso Schloß Weitmar, Lorenzo Isidora - they all passed (pronounced, does release). Nando Gollerweiher - pronounce, did not release. Karats Yoker, Cello Haus Yü, Cid Noriswand - insufficient Bijou Freeseland, Merlin Osterberger Land, Vadim du Haut Mansard, Solo Team Fiemereck - sufficient

Clayton, why did you see a need to copy and paste my post in this threat: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/54627.html#54726 Just being curious? Since it was published here, was that really necessary? Chris

Dawnmarie, Answer me a few simple questions, why do you breed German Shepherds? There is no shortage of puppies. And don't give us that "for the betterment of the breed crap" And why didn't you title your female Catja? If you are so into the breed why did you have to breed her if she is untitled? A temperament test and herding instinct test are not a substitution for an HGH or SchH. Why is it you haven't titled a dog yet, but here you are with advice for everyone and an explanation for everything that happens. If you believe that 1% of your dogs’ offspring having good drives and nerves is acceptable you need a reality check. Please don't think that I dislike you, I just get tired of self proclaimed experts that have yet to do anything themselves. Back to this thread, dogs fail because they are soft and/or poorly trained. But most of the time they are just plain soft. It's sad but true.

normally i would just laugh at this and finish cleaning my house or finish playing with the puppies... but i am feeling rather chipper and motivated this morning so i will just take the bait :) ****Please don't think that I dislike you, I just get tired of self proclaimed experts that have yet to do anything themselves.****** LOL yes i know i am a self proclaimed expert... i often pat myself on the back for all my experiences... i am the first one to turn my nose up at club members and tell them how great i am and not only am i perfect as a dog person, but as a mother, wife and any other thing i do... i am the worlds best breeder too i bet you heard :) Ok...sorry.. i was having fun... i was trying to find the thread where i became this self proclaimed expert... actually i didnt even know bout this post.. someone emailed me to tell me as i didnt even post to this thread and really have no clue as to what you are referring to... every one who knows me personally or on here, can tell you anything you wanna know about me.. no secrets here dude! or girl! whichever you are... u r the one folks thought was lizzy right? i forget its been awhile since i have seen you around you tend to pop up just bout every time i post :) tcmits, i dont judge or pay attention to what anyone else does in their breeding program...or tell them what to do. i have a goal and i am sooooo fortunate to have mentores that have been doing this longer than i am alive and some that have been doing this bout 30 yrs... i am very blessed with these mentores who have helped me along the way... i ask them for guidance, i listen to what they are teaching and i then go out on my own and i learn on my own.... i make my breeding decisions with my heart, so therefore i take into consideration the health of this breed, temperament is under health, as it is a genetic make up of the dog... people can try to mask temperament all they want, i do not. i am known for not selling puppies with character flaws, i have only had one situation with a puppy i was not 100% satisfied he would make a good companion i must be 100% satisfied so he did not go anywhere, and as a responsible breeder i kept him here and he will reside here til he dies as i brought him into this world so i must stand by what i breed. If i have a question about anything to do with temperament and character in anything i sell, i ask my mentores.... those who actively participate in the sport of sch and typically my gut is always right...

*******Why is it you haven't titled a dog yet, but here you are with advice for everyone and an explanation for everything that happens.***** i have no idea what you are referring too, it would help if you highlight what you are replying to. ok.. now your credentials in regard to any type of titling are? you often judge but have yet to share your donation to the breed.... ya know what? honestly? i could care less what you do ... i barely have time to pay attention to what others do with their dogs... i enjoy reading about associates in the breed what they do, but just dont have the time to keep track and keep score like you do.. you must not have a family, children or dogs or you would understand where i am coming from....dont forget, i have this lil puppy mill over here and its hard to keep track of things sorry i just think its a trip the way you pop out of the woodwork anytime someone from CT is on here :) As for my very awesome Catja... she is just bout done with where i want her so dont you worry, can guarantee on a world wide board, she will pass sweetie!!! i knew she would have no problems the day i got her, the stress we put her under and testing we did... no denying her character, had her tested under numerous high qualified trainers and so went from there.. but real life throws curve balls... family must always come first before dogs, had to put things on hold, and then had to focus on something else... heat season came and gone, another... to avoid the chance of pyo, i made a conscious decision to breed her to that outstanding proven sire... be real, look at her bloodline HELLO.... not much room for flaw behind her wouldn't ya say??? :) you pay so much attention to me and my dogs, well focus and you can see something :) ************If you believe that 1% of your dogs’ offspring having good drives and nerves is acceptable you need a reality check************ do your self a favor, keep an eye out for my female Debi, you will like her, i bred her, and there is no denying her, dont need me to say it, ask around... ask several helpers who have watched her since 12 weeks old... they havent seen anything like her in a long time... although we train with Malinois trainer and working line... they are totally into Deb... told me i have something very awesome, and i take that comment with honor as this guy knows dogs and isnt particularly into showlines.. but he owns one or two the ones that work.. i am not going to promote/breed something that doesn't have excellent character... that's not what i want... i want dogs that look awesome and are clear and strong in the mind.... i dont settle for less, so if you are paying such close attention to what i am doing, you will see this :) you obviously know who Yani is, she has proven herself with her offspring... not every single puppy is going to be a Debi, no, but they sure are awesome, every single place her progeny have gone, would not trade them for the world and i see and speak to every single one of them, except for one, and i get to watch them grow and see what she produces.. as we know the companion home is the true test of the breed.... as they are not like "us" so the dogs have to live the "real life" and we cannot accept less than excellent when we sell these puppies to innocent families who arent going to train as we, commit as we, handle situations as we do.. so we must ensure the "real world" we are doing the best we can to do our homework and to breed GSD that are going to be able to adapt to the inexperienced in this world... ok.. i have a dog show today, my son is going to enter in Obedience and Jr handle... so i have to go... catcha later! Regards, Dawnmarie

hi folks -- i do not nessarily politick -- don't know dawnmarie , never met her . but lets not be too critical -- a reality check here as one stated -- big deal ...titled dogs -- what a gaff if i ever saw one --- just because a dog is titled -- so what does that mean ?? minimal requirement ?? -- i have seen so many dogs that have titles that [without bias and predjudice ]are just paper titled and for the show of it -- i have seen many a GSD untitled for one reason or another , eg in my state no Sch club now -- they are a great representation of the GSD -- IMO , title means nothing --some of my GSD titled , some not .. the one that isa not i would stake my life on and is v -rated -- good enough for the bundessigerprufung --title will not make him better or worse -- IMO just forget the title ... show me the dog !!-- i really can't get over the foolisheness i see in the horse and the GSD world -- maybe because i am a straight shooter right from the hip -- and to think a sieger show .. insuficients ?? with dogs titled ?? / forget the show -- my GSDs, show line .. work lines don't matter will do bite work right in the middle of auto traffic / people traffic -- bite hard /fast and out on a whisper [ and some are show line from VA .. no excuse people ] --the foolishness -- the biggest GSD Show in the world and to see this insufficients and dogs failing to out -- -- and these are titled dogs .. correct ?? -- please .. don't comment about dogs that are untitled -- of which many may very well have excellent to superior phenotype and genotype [ and true could be a bad day for a dog or poor training for thjose insufficients] -- BTW refer to gsdring.com for some enlightening articles -- one of the few GSD people that i find right out striaght and on the up and up --