BUYERS BEWARE!!!! - Page 2

In the USA we do wait to get rabies done at about 6 months. But when getting a pup shipped in from Germany my last one was 3 months they do have rabies shots done. I do think if the pup was worth it and you could have gotten the shot at the border with no problems for less then the 100 EU the breeder was willing to deduct I would have probably done it. Yea the principle of it is the shot should have been done. But after driving all that distance that you apparently believed was worth it for the pup principle aside take the pup and in the future don't do buisness with the person again. I know in Euroupe driving long distances is a big deal, but in the US it is different, because of where I live I drive 180k one way just to go shopping.

DH can't you read??? I did call! I called twice! The papers nessecary were promised - contact, blue passport and pedigree. She could of said that it wasn't done, I would have waited. No problem there! I also know how old a dog has to be to get a rabies shot, and what is needed to get over the border! As beeing a breeder myself, I know what my customers require and expect from me as a breeder! I've also bought other dogs from Germany, without having this crap. I just found out that the seller of the pup wasn't/isn't the owner! This seller also offered me a beautiful, nearly 2 year old female, and as above, she also wasn't the owner, she had her there to be titled. The "seller" was apparently only supposed to look after the pup, until the breeder decided to keep her or not!!! After a long discussion with a schocked breeder and owner, he made me a good offer to get the dog with the shots nessecary. Ther are black sheep everywhere, I'm not so naiv to doubt that. What makes me think is that some folks out there, find it normal. I offer my buyers honesty. I'd appreciate it also as a buyer

WOW, guess you principles saved you from really getting screwed. glad to hear it all worked out.

Any time you ship a pup, you MUST have all vaccinations current, and that means (in most countries) RABIES vaccination by 12 weeks. So those of you who don't give rabies shots until 6-8 months or later, must not be shipping dogs anywhere after 12 weeks unless it's after those 6-8 months. Most city dwelling people don't really need to worry a whole lot about rabies, because it's almost non-existent in cities due to the lack of the pest carrying vermin. However, those who live out in the country, where mice, rabbits, coyote, etc run wild, should get the rabies vaccination as soon as it's available for your pup. Rabies is not a pleasant thing for the dog. Even more unpleasant is the multiple shots required for YOU if you get bit by an animal carrying rabies. Some vaccinations are over-done. I personally don't think rabies is one of them. I think the reason this person is upset is because if you don't have the rabies vaccination done 30 days prior, you are required to keep the dog in quarantine until those 30 days are up. This is very hard, especially on a puppy. I personally will not ship one of my pups to a place that has a huge (more than 7 day) quarantine requirement. Perhaps I am mistaken, because I do not know all the facts in this particular case, but I am just playing "devil's advocate" to (perhaps) shed some light.

Iggeli, you were putting out a general warning to people not to buy from Germany because one single person out of hundreds was lazy? Get over your anger, don't generalize and by doing so lable people who are not associated with that one person. She apparently is a black sheep and you were unfortunate to end up having to deal with her. It happens. Though, yes, it should not... in an ideal world. Question is why you did not notice that the second baby shot was missing when you looked at the pup the first time and checked all particulars? You probably never talked about it because you assumed it was done. That too happens. You called the day before the vaccination was supposed to be done, but you did not call back before your trip to check if it was in fact done. Before I get into the car to drive 900kms through Germany (far most stressful driving in Germany than the US!) I make sure everything is set for the trip. Something unexpected can always come up. I would have checked, that is all I am saying. I am sure, next time you will too. Looks like the breeder stepped up to the plate and resolved the situation. Glad that was mentioned too. So since it was resolved, why exactly are you still throwing a fit? And now get angry at people just because they do not fully agree with you - mostly because we only respond from the limited info we are given? For those thinking about getting a dog from Germany: If a pup is shipped by air cargo out of Germany, the shipping companies will inform the shipper what is required for shipping that pup or dog. When the shipper drops off the dog, they check health certificate and Rabies status and pretty much everything the pup/dog needs to enter the country it is being shipped to as differnet countries have different requirements - to make sure the dog can fly, or else it will not be put on a plane. This bit of info should stop people from overseas worrying that what happened to Iggeli will happen to them.

I'M ABSOLUTELY NOT SAYING GERMANS BREEDERS ARE CON ARTISTS!!! THIS IS NOT A GENERAL WARNING NOT TO BUY FROM GERMAN BREEDERS!!! (That's why I specifically wrote at the bottom of my first post "Got any questions?") At the moment, dogs living in Switzerland don't need a rabies shot unless they go abroad. However, dogs being taken into, or going out of Switzerland do, unless they are too jung! As I have stated, the female is 4 and a half months old and a border case. I could have had luck and no one would have checked, but I'm not taking the risk of maybe having to have being refused entrance. I know that things like that happen daily, and that people "smuggle" dogs in like that. I don't and I won't! I was very mad because the seller only had to say no can do, and I would have postponed the journey until verything was sorted out. I must also mention that I believe people when they say that the dog belongs to them! Of course she was a badie. I'm sure that this woman had her reasons for trying what she did. But why should she be allowed to get away with it? The dogs she offered me to buy were not hers to sell. A very reputable German breeder was nearly conned by this person. She was supposed to title the older dogs and raise the younger ones, and not sell them.