another fatal shooting - Page 3

Actually I do know a damned thing about Canada.

• In 1991, Bill C-17 tightened up restrictions and established controls on numerous firearms with military background. Legislation also made changes to the FAC system. FAC applicants were now required to pass a firearms safety course, and a thorough background check, and wait a minimum of 28 days after applying for an FAC before being issued.

Finally, in addition to the above changes, laws were put into place that restricted ownership of high-capacity magazines: limiting handguns to ten rounds, and most semi-automatic centre-fire rifles to five rounds. Legislation was upheld by the Supreme Court in Reference re Firearms Act (2000). The FAC system was replaced with possession-only licences (POLs) and possession and acquisition licences (PALs). Referring to Bill C-68, John Dixon, a former advisor to Deputy Minister of Justice John C. Tait, stated that the Firearms Act was part of a policy exercise by the Liberal Party of Canada so as to appear to be "tougher" on guns than Prime Minister Kim Campbell, and thus defeat her in the 1993 election.^[14]

• In 2001, the registration portion of Bill C-68 was implemented. The government asks for all firearms, including long-guns (rifles and shotguns), to be registered.
• In 2003, the registration of long-guns becomes mandatory. Failure to register a firearm now results in criminal charges.
• As of 2006, while legislation is still in place, the government is no longer asking long gun owners for a registration fee and an amnesty (now extended until May 16, 2011) temporarily protects licensed owners of non-restricted firearms (or those whose licences have expired since January 1, 2004) from prosecution for the possession of unregistered long guns.^[15]
• In November 2009, Bill C-391 passed second reading in the House of Commons by a vote of 164 to 137. If passed through the entire parliamentary process by the House and Senate, the bill would have abolished the requirement to register non-restricted long guns. While the proposed legislation was a private member's bill, it had the support of the Conservative government. The bill was referred to the House of Commons Committee on Public Safety for further action. However, after several months of hearings, the Opposition majority on the committee recommended that no further action be taken to advance the bill. In September 2010 Bill C-391 failed to pass a third reading.
• On October 25, 2011, Public Safety Minister Vic Toews introduced a bill to amend the Criminal Code and the Firearms Act, to abolish the long-gun registry and destroy all records.
• On February 15, 2012, Bill C-19 passed third reading in the House of Commons; the motion to abolish the long-gun registry passed 159 to 130 and Bill C-19 became law.

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• On October 25, 2011, Public Safety Minister Vic Toews introduced a bill to amend the Criminal Code and the Firearms Act, to abolish the long-gun registry and destroy all records.
• On February 15, 2012, Bill C-19 passed third reading in the House of Commons; the motion to abolish the long-gun registry passed 159 to 130 and Bill C-19 became law.
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Take note.  What a friggin' waste of taxpayers money and a LOT of it!

Classification of firearms

Like licences, firearms are classified into prohibited, restricted and non-restricted categories, as defined by Part III of Criminal Code (R.S., 1985, c. C-46)^[5]

Prohibited firearms include:

• Handguns with a barrel that is 105 millimetres (4.1 in) or less in length
• Handguns that are designed to discharge .25 or .32 calibre ammunition (unless stated in the Regulations Prescribing Exclusions from Certain Definitions of the Criminal Code International Sporting Competition Handguns)^[6]
• Rifles and shotguns that have been altered by sawing, cutting or any other means, so that their barrel length be less than 457 millimetres (18.0 in) or their overall length less than 660 millimetres (26 in)
• Automatic firearms, whether or not they have been altered to discharge only one projectile with one pressure of the trigger
• Firearms prescribed as prohibited by the Regulations Prescribing Certain Firearms and other Weapons, Components and Parts of Weapons, Accessories, Cartridge Magazines, Ammunition and Projectiles as Prohibited or Restricted (SOR/98-462)^[7]:

• Firearm capable of discharging dart or other object carrying electrical current or substance, including Taser Public Defender and any variant or modified version of it
• Firearm known as SSS-1 Stinger and any similar firearm designed or of a size to fit in the palm of the hand
• Carbines, rifles and shotguns of designs commonly known as, including any variants or modified versions of them:

• A.A. Arms AR9 semi-auto rifle and AR-9 carbine
• AK-47 rifle and all variants, including AK Hunter, AKM, AKM-63, AKS-56S, AKS-56S-1/2, AKS-74, AKS84S-1, AMD-65, AR Model .223, Dragunov, Galil, KKMPi69, M60, M62, M70B1, M70AB2, M76, M77B1, M78, M80, M80A, MAK90, MPiK, MPiKM, MPiKMS-72, MPiKS, PKM, PKM-DGN-60, PMKM, RPK, RPK-74, RPK-87S, Type 56, 56-1, 56-2, 56-3, 56-4, Type 68, Type 79, American Arms AKY39, AKF39, AKC47 and AKF47, MAM70WS762, Mitchell AK-22, AK-47 and Heavy Barrel AK-47, Norinco 84S, 84S AK, 56, 56-1/2/3/4, Poly Technologies Inc. AK-47/S, AKS-47/S and AKS-762, Valmet M76, M76 carbine, M78/A2, M78 LMG, M82 and M82 Bullpup, except: Valmet Hunter, Hunter Auto and M78
• American 180 auto-carbine, including AM-180 and Illinois Arms Co. Model 180 auto-carbines
• Armalite AR-180 Sporter carbine
• Barrett "Light 50" Model 82A1 & Model 90 rifles
• Benelli M1 Super 90 and M3 Super 90 shotguns, except: M1 Super 90 (Field/Sporting Special), Montefeltro Super 90 (Standard Hunter/Left Hand/Turkey/Uplander/Slug/20 Gauge), Black Eagle (Limited Ed./Competition/Slug Gun), Super Black Eagle (Custom Slug)
• Beretta AR70 assault rifle
• Bernardelli B4 and B4/B shotguns
• BM 59 rifle, including: Beretta BM 59, BM 59R, BM 59GL, BM 59D, BM 59 MkE, BM 59 MkI/MkII/MkIII, BM 59 Mk Ital/Ital TA/TP/Para and BM 60CB, as well as Springfield Armory BM 59 Alpine, BM 59 Alpine Paratrooper and BM 59 Nigerian MkIV
• Bushmaster auto-rifle
• Calico M-900 rifle, including M-951, M-100 and M-105 carbines
• Cetme Sport auto-rifle
• Claridge HI-TEC C, LEC, ZLEC-9 carbines
• Daewoo K1, K1A1, K2, Max1, Max2, AR-100, AR-110C, MAXI-II and KC-20 rifles
• Demro TAC-1M and XF-7 Wasp carbines
• Eagle Apache carbine
• Encom MK-IV, MP-9 and MP-45 carbines
• FAMAS rifle, including MAS223, FAMAS Export, FAMAS Civil and Mitchell MAS/22
• Feather AT-9 semi-auto carbine and AT-22 auto-carbine
• Federal XC-900, XC-220 rifles and XC-450 auto-rifle
• Fabrique Nationale FN FNC, FNC-11, FNC-22, FNC-33, FNC Auto and FNC Auto Paratrooper rifles, as well as FN FAL, FN 308 Model44, FAL Competition Auto, FAL Heavy Barrel 308 Match, FAL Paratrooper 308 Match 50-64 and FN 308 Model 50-63
• Franchi SPAS 12, LAW 12 shotguns
• Franchi SPAS 15 shotgun
• Galil assault rifle, including AP-84, ARM, AR, SAR, 332 and Mitchell Galil/22 auto-rifle
• Gepard anti-materiel rifle
• Goncz High-Tech carbine
• Grendel R-31 auto-carbine
• Heckler&Koch G3, G3A3, G3A3ZF, G3A4, G3SG/1, G11, HK33, 33A2, 33A3, 33KA1, HK91, 91A2, 91A3, 93, 93A2, 93A3, 94, 94A2, 94A3 and PSG-1 rifles, as well as: MP5, MP5A2, MP5A3, MP5K, MP5SD, MP5SD1, MP5SD2, MP5SD3 submachine guns
• Iver Johnson AMAC long-range rifle and Plainfield Super Enforcer carbine
• J&R Eng M-68, PJK M-68 and Wilkinson Terry carbines
• Kimel Industries AR-9 rifle/carbine
• Leader Mark Series auto-rifle
• Maadi Griffin rifle/carbine
• McMillan M87, M87R rifles and M88 carbine
• Pauza Specialties P50 rifle and P50 carbine
• PE57 rifle
• Research Armament Industries Model 500 rifle
• SIG AMT, SG-550 rifles and SG-551 carbine
• Spectre auto-carbine
• Springfield Armory SAR-48, SAR-48 Bush/Heavy Barrel/Para/22
• Steyr AUG rifle
• Striker, Striker 12 and Streetsweeper shotguns
• Thompson submachine gun including: Model 1921, 1927, 1928, M1, Auto-Ordnance M27A-1, M27A-1 Deluxe, M1927A-3/A-5, Commando Arms MkI, MkII, MkIII, Mk9, Mk45
• Universal Enforcer Model 3000 auto-carbine and Model 3010N, 3015G, 3020TRB and 3025TCO carbines
• US Arms PMAI assault rifle
• USAS-12 auto-shotgun
• UZI, Mini-UZI and Model A carbines
• Weaver Arms Nighthawk carbine

• Pistols, revolvers and other handguns of designs commonly known as, including any variants or modified versions of them:

• AA Arms AP-9 auto-pistol and AP-9, Target AP-9 and Mini AP-9 pistols
• Bushmaster auto-pistol
• Calico M-950 auto-pistol and M-110 pistol
• Claridge Hi-Tec Models S, L, T, ZL-9 and ZT-9 pistols
• Cobray M10, M11, and RPB M10/M11/SM10/SM11 and SWD M10/M11/SM10/SM11 pistols
• CZ Skorpion auto-pistol
• Encom MK-IV, MP-9 and MP-45 assault pistols, including MP-9, MP-45 mini pistols
• Federal XP-450, XP-900 auto-pistols
• Goncz High-Tech long pistol
• Grendel P-30, P-30M, P-30L and P-31 pistols
• Heckler&Koch SP89 auto-pistol
• Ingram M10, M11 pistols
• Interdynamics KG-99 assault pistol
• Intratec Tec-9, Tec-9S, Tec-9M and Tec-9MS auto-pistols (as well as any semi-automatic variant including Tec-DC9, Tec-DC9M, Tec-9A, Tec-Scorpion, Tec-22T and Tec-22TN)
• Iver Johnson Enforcer Model 3000 auto-pistol
• Kimel Industries AP-9 pistol
• Leader Mark5 auto-pistol
• Maadi Griffin pistol
• OA-93 assault pistol
• Patriot pistol
• Partisan Avenger auto-pistol
• Spectre auto-pistol
• Sterling MK6 carbine
• Steyr SPP auto-pistol
• Sterling Mk7, Mk7 C4 and Mk7 C8 pistols
• US Arms PMAIP assault pistol
• UZI, Micro-UZI pistols
• XM231S pistol and A1, A2, A3 Flattop pistols

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/compare/31/number_of_gun_homicides/194

Compare the number of homocides using guns committed in the US to Canada. Why can't the US adopt gun laws similar to those in Canada?

What Preston wrote.

Stop allowing murderers back out on the streets to murder again seems like a good start to prevent crimes like the AMBUSHER was allowed to carry out (the computer is putting in the caps, not me). Put psychos away from society, so they can't carry out their crimes. They'll do it with or without guns.

Blitzen,

 Canadian's are allowed to own and do own semi-automatic rifles. There are a number of semi-automatic rifles such as the IWI Tavor, Russian SKS, RA XCR and HK SL8 that are non-restricted and as of 2012 they are not required to be registered. Most prohibited weapons are classified as such because of the ease in which they can be converted to fully automatic, however many on the prohib and restricted list were classified because they looked scary (not joking). Yes we need RPAL license for restricted firearms and PAL licence for non-restricted firearms, but the fact still remains that most gun crimes are committed with illegally obtained guns here in Canada.

Another thing to think about, our Liberal government in the 90's stripped away gun owners protection against illegal search and seizure granted under our Charter of Rights.We are making some head way with our current government, however once something has been taken away it's hard to get it back.

It's proven if someone is willing to die to kill then their is not much you can do. Action is quicker than reaction.

As far as gun control goes we have 300,000,000 guns in America.So short of consficating guns from people not much you can do. Sure the Government has a propaganda tool that makes it look like they are doing something but that usually ends up being less freedom for law abiding citizens.

I would think that if people were really interested in saving lives that they should consider that in America we still have blood sacrafices of the unborn child. Their has been whole generations in the millions because of abortion. But the Government propaganda machine wants you to think of gun control because citizens being able to defend themselves is a threat to their control in the new world order.

FOOD FOR THOUGHT EITHER WAY WE ARE IN FOR SOME BIG CHANGES I THINK THE BIGGEST CHANGE WILL BE SOME OF OUR FREEDOMS.

Blitzen easy on the cut and paste no one cares about stats they only want to be safe and free. You still only have a 1% chance of dying by being shot with a gun 100% of the time.