SV show collars...correct fit? - Page 1

Hello.

I have both a fursaver and a steel "scoop" style show collar.  My newbie question is:  how are they both to fit on the dog? ie is the fursaver on the dead rings OR (if that is too large and the dog won't keep its head up) do you cinch it in and place higher on the neck (but not on the choke)

TIA

Bumpity bump.

I know there MUST be some "pros" out there that want to help a newb.

I'm not a pro so maybe that's why I can't quite visualize what you are explaining. 

Maybe I am just not a pro at communicating animules.

I don't think I can word it much differently.  I want to know whether the show collars are reasonably "tight" or they hang loose.   I know the dogs are not on chokes.

Yes and yes!! Fursaver is always on the dead ring.. i owuld be way more concerned about the dog getting out of a loose collar then keeping its head up..

With the show collar, because I still thought it was too loose for my little female.. I just cinched it up and made it a bit snugger.. don't want it too high up ..  the whole purpose it to allow the dog to pull into it (which by the way will casue the head to go down naturally some) but not have its air cut off or restricted like pulling into a tight choke op a flat show collar would..

Does this help?

Show collars are always loose, tight collars aren't used and collars are always fastened on the dead ring, you can't show a dog that doesn't have enough air to breathe.  Whether a dog holds his head up or not is a question how it is trained, how it is handled, how the owner calls the dog and last but not least the conformation of the dog.

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Many puppies or dogs who are learning the show ring, the SV show collars are "snugged" up. Once they learn how to do it and do not attempt to back out of the show collar.... the proper fit is for the collar to be long enough for the leash to attach just above the whither (shoulder). It stays low so that the dog can pull into it.  Fur savers should be loose also, but can be snugged up too.

Hope that helped some.

Debby

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fursavers are generally okay if you can fit 2 to 3 fingers between the collar and the neck.

Or measure neck and add two inches. If I remember right the measurement of fursavers start with the inside of the ring to the other ring,inside. Hope that is helpful.

For show I have seen fursavers much bigger for comfort, if you feel dog would not slip collar in ring.

I found show collar with just half chain I am going to buy and try.

If dog drops head and you are trying to gait around ring I rely on double ring person to help bring more alertness to dog.

I don't think I have seen anyone cinch a collar to help head dropping.

Is dog trying to track.?

I track , ring train, and do bite work in different fields . Dog knows which field is for what purpose.

Does that help?

Yes, that all does help.  The handler was cinching as she is new to the ring.  But I had never seen that before and don't like the way it looks.  The dog doesn't track per se but doesn't hold the head up as high as can be expected, even with double handling.  We are going to try and use toys or tugs to increase the motivation.