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I would not be responding to this if your facts were straight. The person that said they came out with a fear aggressive dog stated that I told them that I would “"String the Dog up by the leash" until she stopped struggling, if she got aggressive” is not giving the whole story. If you were one of the hundreds that came to me because your dog is turning on you then you would be partially correct. But you are giving the impression to people that if you have a fear aggressive dog that the remedy is stringing her up. That is not true and I would hate to see someone doing this without the direct supervision of a professional because it won’t work. Over the last 30 plus years of dealing with all types of people with all types of dog aggression issues we unfortunately come across folks that come to us as a last resort. The dog has bitten them or family members and they care enough about the dog to want to correct the behavior and save the dog from euthanasia. With this in mind after explaining the very difficult task they are about to take on we very carefully design a training program for them. If they are willing and dedicated they will start a series of one on one lesson’s to teach the dog true obedience in a very careful and fair way. If at any point the dog protest to the owner/handler in a way of aggression the dog must be stopped with the leash and collar to prevent the owner from being bit and to prove to the dog that they are not the leader. This suspension technique originated from William Koehler chief trainer for Disney and director of obedience training for the world’s largest dog club, Orange Empire of California. You can read about it in his book the “Koehler Method” I have had the opportunity to meet him and discuss this method with him and other world known trainers. The length of correction varies depending on the intent and severity of the attack. Once the correction has been delivered what follows is just as important as the correction and must be done properly. The goal is to SAVE these dogs and mold them into great family members so they can live a full life without ever biting again. The owner/ handler must do this and is the one that will have to make the decision after we explain the process. No one is forced into doing something they do not want to do and very rarely is this used on a fear aggressive dog. It is used because it works but for some that have never had it explained properly or understand what it is like to own such a dog I can see how they may feel. As this is something we do not enjoy doing or having to explain to outsiders the outcome is our reward, happy dog, happy owners and safer community.

Fear aggression is a world away from any other aggression problems and should be dealt with completely different.
If the dogs afraid of you or anything else stringing it up isn't going to make that fear go away.

I dont knowwww?  Stringing up a dog, sounds awfully cruel. Mabe its because I'm not, understanding what it consist of. I have this book, i bought it a garage sale, in was published in 1980 and written by jo and paul loeb. Its called supertraining your dog.  It's amazing  It tells you so many diffrent ways how to abuse your dog and then it has a whole other section on how to abuse your cat.  Of course they dont think bearing your cats head for 30 seconds in the garden, to keep it out, is abuse either.

Man!  I learn a lot from this place!

I wouldn't "string a dog up" for fear aggression or dog aggression.  I have dealt with some very very dog aggressive dogs and have other ways to deal with dog aggression.  I have strung a dog up for handler aggression towards me.  If I have a dog that is seriously aggressive towards me I will choke up on the leash and hang the dog to avoid getting bit.  That is the only time I would do this.  I've only had to do it with a couple of dogs over the past 15 years.  I had a rank, dominant, hard male GSD who didn't appreciate corrections, he could be handler aggressive.  At times he would also show displaced aggression and redirect it towards me.  I've also had some SchH and police K-9's come back at me doing 3rd party corrections.  You back up very quickly and reel in the leash before they nail you.  Afterward, you have a friendly discussion with the decoy about keeping the dogs attention on him. 

IMO, it's a severe correction and really needs to be done by an experienced handler.  It's not over after the correction.  You also need to know how to handle the dog immediately after stringing him up.  That is very important as well.

I agree with ronpace's original post. 

JMO,

Jim

By the way, this is how Cesar Milan handles many dogs on his show.  The show is edited so you don't see how long he strings the dog up for.  But watch how gassed out the dog is after the correction; as the dog lays on the ground and he is petting the dog. 

I totally agree Jim about Cesar.   They are totaly gassed out and sometimes you can see a lack of oxygen look on their tongues.

Kathy

The point is not to suffocate the dog, the point is to let the dog know you hold his life in your hands.
Again this is no way to deal with fear.

Hey Kathy, you are right.  He basically chokes them out with his slip leash.  Notice he rarely uses a flat collar or prong collar.  He usually uses a thin leash as a collar and leash.

How's the baby?

Jim