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by SitasMom on 24 August 2010 - 13:08
it it better do drive a few days to a stud or to have semen chilled and shipped?
in either case the surgical IA will be used.
in either case the surgical IA will be used.
by ShadyLady on 24 August 2010 - 13:08
If you drive a few days, you can't count on a natural breeding?
With surgical AI, it depends upon the vet. Some have better success rates than others.
With surgical AI, it depends upon the vet. Some have better success rates than others.
by SitasMom on 24 August 2010 - 14:08
Dr Hutch sais that any bitch over 5 will have much better odds with s-ai.
http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A&S=0&C=0&A=1224&EVetID=3001496
I guess the question is stress of travel vs chilling the semen, which is worse?
http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A&S=0&C=0&A=1224&EVetID=3001496
I guess the question is stress of travel vs chilling the semen, which is worse?
by beetree on 24 August 2010 - 14:08
Sounds like you have to make that call. With chilled semen you add an extra step that could render the semen, not viable. How confident are you in the collector or collection process?
by ShadyLady on 24 August 2010 - 15:08
If the stud dog has good sperm counts (can you get a recent report?) and the people on the other end are experienced in shipping freshed chilled overnight, then I don't see why driving would be necessary. Are the vets at either location equally competent? Personally, I wouldn't want to drive, when the only difference is the shipping. Dog and horse people ship semen all of the time.
by SitasMom on 24 August 2010 - 15:08
I don't know the collocter or their process...I'm still looking for a proper vet in LI to do it......time is running short - 1.1 progesterone level today....... gotta decide today.
more details.... http://www.akc.org/vetoutreach/headlinenews_13.cfm ...
The surgical method of artificial insemination is especially useful when breeding "middle age" and older bitches (5years of age and older). The unique biology of the bitch exposes the uterine lining to the inflammatory effects of progesterone for 60+ days, whether she is pregnant or not, accounts for the progressive changes in the uterus from a normal endometrium to cystic endometrial hyperplasia. These changes eventually render the bitch prone to such diseases as mucometrium and pyometritis. Pyometritis is a hormonal disease with a secondary infection, not a primary infection of the uterus.
The changes to the uterine lining can affect conception in many ways. The endometrial cysts can affect the semen's ability to reach the fallopian tubes where conception occurs (regardless of the method of insemination). The cystic changes can also prevent implantation of the fertilized ova, which occurs 17-18 days after ovulation and can inhibit placental development and growth.
A surgical insemination is a minor surgical procedure that allows the surgeon to inject the semen directly into the uterus. As the surgeon has the uterus in his hands, cysts, uterine wall thickness and muscular texture can be evaluated. There is no more accurate method to perform this vital examine. In many bitches, that have a surgical insemination, corrections can be made to the uterus that allow for conception to occur. A bitch's greatest chance of conception is by having a surgical semen implant.
A pre-surgical blood value examination is performed on the bitch, which is also beneficial to assure good prebreeding health. The surgical procedure is performed under sterile conditions.
The bitch is given a short acting intravenous injection of Propofol. An endotracheal tube is placed and the bitch is connected to a gas anesthetic, Sevothane. Even though the total surgical time is usually no longer than 10-15 minutes the bitch is connected to surgical monitoring.
A 2-3 inch incision is made on the abdomen through the skin and underlying muscle. The uterus is isolated and evaluated. The semen, whether fresh collected, fresh chilled or frozen, is inseminated though a small hypodermic needle into the uterus. The veterinary surgeon can see and feel the uterus fill as the semen is deposited. There is no incision in the uterus proper. The incision is sutured and in most cases the bitch is sent home within an hour post-surgically.
A bitch that has had surgical inseminations is not more prone to needing a ceasarean section nor having whelping difficulties. Having a surgical insemination does not decrease the number of times a bitch can be bred. A surgical insemination should be considered anytime there is a reason to evaluate the uterus (bitches 5 years and older) or where the semen being used can benefit from intrauterine implantation.
Our whole goal when breeding a bitch is to maximize the chances for conception. The manner and method that the semen is placed into the bitch should be evaluated critically as to whether a natural breeding, vaginal insemination, transcervical insemination or surgical intrauterine implant, gives the bitch the greatest chance of conception. Ultimately this will allow us to have the litter of which we have planned and dreamed.
more details.... http://www.akc.org/vetoutreach/headlinenews_13.cfm ...
The surgical method of artificial insemination is especially useful when breeding "middle age" and older bitches (5years of age and older). The unique biology of the bitch exposes the uterine lining to the inflammatory effects of progesterone for 60+ days, whether she is pregnant or not, accounts for the progressive changes in the uterus from a normal endometrium to cystic endometrial hyperplasia. These changes eventually render the bitch prone to such diseases as mucometrium and pyometritis. Pyometritis is a hormonal disease with a secondary infection, not a primary infection of the uterus.
The changes to the uterine lining can affect conception in many ways. The endometrial cysts can affect the semen's ability to reach the fallopian tubes where conception occurs (regardless of the method of insemination). The cystic changes can also prevent implantation of the fertilized ova, which occurs 17-18 days after ovulation and can inhibit placental development and growth.
A surgical insemination is a minor surgical procedure that allows the surgeon to inject the semen directly into the uterus. As the surgeon has the uterus in his hands, cysts, uterine wall thickness and muscular texture can be evaluated. There is no more accurate method to perform this vital examine. In many bitches, that have a surgical insemination, corrections can be made to the uterus that allow for conception to occur. A bitch's greatest chance of conception is by having a surgical semen implant.
A pre-surgical blood value examination is performed on the bitch, which is also beneficial to assure good prebreeding health. The surgical procedure is performed under sterile conditions.
The bitch is given a short acting intravenous injection of Propofol. An endotracheal tube is placed and the bitch is connected to a gas anesthetic, Sevothane. Even though the total surgical time is usually no longer than 10-15 minutes the bitch is connected to surgical monitoring.
A 2-3 inch incision is made on the abdomen through the skin and underlying muscle. The uterus is isolated and evaluated. The semen, whether fresh collected, fresh chilled or frozen, is inseminated though a small hypodermic needle into the uterus. The veterinary surgeon can see and feel the uterus fill as the semen is deposited. There is no incision in the uterus proper. The incision is sutured and in most cases the bitch is sent home within an hour post-surgically.
A bitch that has had surgical inseminations is not more prone to needing a ceasarean section nor having whelping difficulties. Having a surgical insemination does not decrease the number of times a bitch can be bred. A surgical insemination should be considered anytime there is a reason to evaluate the uterus (bitches 5 years and older) or where the semen being used can benefit from intrauterine implantation.
Our whole goal when breeding a bitch is to maximize the chances for conception. The manner and method that the semen is placed into the bitch should be evaluated critically as to whether a natural breeding, vaginal insemination, transcervical insemination or surgical intrauterine implant, gives the bitch the greatest chance of conception. Ultimately this will allow us to have the litter of which we have planned and dreamed.
by ShadyLady on 24 August 2010 - 15:08
I have friends who have done surgical AI's with 1) shipped frozen and 2) shipped fresh chilled. They used their local vets who were experienced. Both had successful litters.
by SitasMom on 24 August 2010 - 15:08
cool!
by CrashKerry on 24 August 2010 - 17:08
Maybe you should do a consultation with a live reproduction specialist instead of going by whatever you read on the internet.
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