What's wrong with fero,mink, and lord?

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by Carlin on 14 August 2010 - 19:08

In my search for a GSD puppy to grow up with and protect my young family, I came across a breeder who advertised that their pups were fero,mink, and lord free. In doing a bit of research on the three, they appear to be good stock. So what is the advantage for the pedigree to be "free" of these seemingly good dogs? Thank you.

by aceofspades on 14 August 2010 - 19:08

I have no clue but I was looking through classifieds the other day as well and came across someone looking for a stud and specified that 7th gen must be Fero free.

by Red Sable on 14 August 2010 - 19:08

Probably because they are used so much in most pedigrees, and breeders are looking for different blood to cross with.

by ShelleyR on 14 August 2010 - 22:08

Those dogs, Fero in particular, have been heavily line-bred upon, especially in the US. I've seen pedigrees with Fero 3-4 times in the first 4-5 generations, Mink 2,3 times, etc. Thus it is sometimes difficult to find a stud dog that won't bring "too much of a good thing" to one's breeding program.
The last two dogs I imported for stud have no lines to any of the three dogs you mentioned, part of the reason I selected them.
I hope this answers your question.

by beast on 14 August 2010 - 23:08

Hi Shelley, is it possible for you to share the pedigree of your dogs?
I understand if you're uncomfortable doing that, just figured I'd ask in case you're open to it.

I understand why some wouldn't want a heavily line bred dog, my question is; What is the purpose of such extensive line breeding (3-5, 4-5)?

My dog is line bred on a few dogs.....

by ziegenfarm on 15 August 2010 - 01:08

yup, i have to agree. i don't think that they are trying to indicate that there is anything wrong with these dogs, but they are, infact, advertising that they have alternative bloodlines. (for those who are already heavily linebred)
pjp

by Carlin on 15 August 2010 - 15:08

thanks for the replies - most helpful!

by vomlittlehaus on 15 August 2010 - 15:08

I agree with the previous posts on them being advertised as Mink, Fero or Lord free. They were very popular studs and it is very difficult to find a dog without them in their pedigree. Some one would look for a bloodline free of these dogs if they already had several dogs line bred with them and would not want to line breed that close purhaps. Having one of them in the pedigree is NOT a bad thing. All three are great producers and that is why they are in so many pedigrees. My female has Fero in her line and I am looking to breed to a male with Zorro/Lord in the line. Should make a great combination of lines. Maybe I will start a thread with both dogs to see what people think of the mix.

Dawn

by ShelleyR on 15 August 2010 - 17:08

Beast- No problem sharing my dogs' pedigrees-

This is "T"... Aka- V Carol vom Arolser Holz, SchH 3, FH2, KK1, a1 h & e
www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/123658.html

This is V Pallo vom Arolser Holz, SchH 3, KK1, a1: (decesed) Portia's father
www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/25414.html

by VIANDEN on 16 August 2010 - 17:08

I agree that they were used way to much in a pedigree so when I was looking for a stud to buy I want all three not in his pedigree.
My Fero,Mink and Lord free SG Zico van't Linnershof Sch3 FH OFA Excellent

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