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by nonacona60 on 28 July 2010 - 19:07
Wouldn't it be nice to have a section just for bad breeders? I think that with all the bad breeder threads, that take up so much space, if we had a section so that names of breeders and kennels with a description of experiences by buyers were exposed, that would be better. There have been numerous times the same thread about the same breeder about he same situation has been posted. We all want to be aware of unethical, or nonresponsible breeders, but it kinda gets old after awhile. Kinda like what others have said...SSDD..Think about this idea. What do you think???
by Sock Puppet on 28 July 2010 - 19:07
Who would have final say? Could someone with a vendetta just post something to slam another.
Won't work here as this place is not moderated as is, now if someone wants to add it to there site go for it but make sure you understand the law before you take on this task.
BTW people can report it to ripoffreport.com.
Won't work here as this place is not moderated as is, now if someone wants to add it to there site go for it but make sure you understand the law before you take on this task.
BTW people can report it to ripoffreport.com.
by Two Moons on 28 July 2010 - 20:07
I think you want to put your finger in the Dam while the water flows over you.
There is a scammer at every turn, everything everywhere.
It's the buyers place to know the difference, and the legal system to deal with those who prey on the week.
That section would consume the Internet.
There is a scammer at every turn, everything everywhere.
It's the buyers place to know the difference, and the legal system to deal with those who prey on the week.
That section would consume the Internet.
by Papas Fritas on 28 July 2010 - 20:07
This is exactly why PETA and Animal Right's activists are such a threat to dog owner's, bredders, etc... There might possibly be a "few BAD" breeders in here, but for the most part, the bad mouthing that goes on in here seems to stem from jealousy, personal vendettas, lover's quarrels, etc...
Why suggest something idiotic and antagonistic like this? Why don't you try strengenthing this German Shepherd community? If you really want to do some good, why don't you go after the TRUE PUPPY MILLS that literally stock pile puppies and typically sell to pet stores? This bullshit in fighting among dog enthusiasts, particularly German Shepherds, is what makes us weaker than organizations like PETA.
This suggestion says a lot about you, nonacona...
Why suggest something idiotic and antagonistic like this? Why don't you try strengenthing this German Shepherd community? If you really want to do some good, why don't you go after the TRUE PUPPY MILLS that literally stock pile puppies and typically sell to pet stores? This bullshit in fighting among dog enthusiasts, particularly German Shepherds, is what makes us weaker than organizations like PETA.
This suggestion says a lot about you, nonacona...
by Sock Puppet on 28 July 2010 - 20:07
Amen. Thank you Papas.
by Sam Spade on 28 July 2010 - 20:07
Just make a list of good breeders. Or better yet, ask everyone to list who they think is the best and after so many votes, put together a list with rankings.
But then you got the problem of Working vs Slow lines
by Sock Puppet on 28 July 2010 - 20:07
It will not work here as most can't agree on the color of the sky.
by GSDtravels on 28 July 2010 - 20:07
It doesn's matter what we think, Oli is the one who decides. He has added some format changes, but not sections, so I don't think he has any plans to do so.
by Papas Fritas on 28 July 2010 - 20:07
My last two dogs have been Malis... I love the German Shepherd breed, but my last three had health issues, so I made the switch. Anyway, you really don't see this bullshit in Mali circles.
Maybe when you have a dog that is not so appealing to the eye, all you have left is his workability and your dedication training. No time for "soap box self glorification" and bullshit.
Maybe when you have a dog that is not so appealing to the eye, all you have left is his workability and your dedication training. No time for "soap box self glorification" and bullshit.
by Mystere on 28 July 2010 - 21:07
There are very valid reasons not to create such a list, due to liability issues, if nothing else.
I disagree that most complaints "... stem from jealousy, personal vendettas, lover's quarrels, etc..." In fact, I recall very few that could be legitimately described in that manner. Most are issues of buyers who failed to do even the most elementary research, eg. Google, that would have alerted them to potential problems and breeders to avoid. Most of the remaining issues are the result of breeders who either did not adequately screen the buyer or simply could not have forseen the nut at the door for that particular sale. A little due diligence on the part of breeders, again, eg. Google, would have alerted them that there was a potential buyer to avoid.
Then, there are the genuinely "bad breeders." Of course, often that term is like pornography: we know it when we see it, even if we cannot define or explain it.
I would suggest that it is time to resurrect the "Buyer Beware" thread.
I disagree that most complaints "... stem from jealousy, personal vendettas, lover's quarrels, etc..." In fact, I recall very few that could be legitimately described in that manner. Most are issues of buyers who failed to do even the most elementary research, eg. Google, that would have alerted them to potential problems and breeders to avoid. Most of the remaining issues are the result of breeders who either did not adequately screen the buyer or simply could not have forseen the nut at the door for that particular sale. A little due diligence on the part of breeders, again, eg. Google, would have alerted them that there was a potential buyer to avoid.
Then, there are the genuinely "bad breeders." Of course, often that term is like pornography: we know it when we see it, even if we cannot define or explain it.
I would suggest that it is time to resurrect the "Buyer Beware" thread.
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