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by DDR-DSH on 19 July 2010 - 11:07
I thought some of you may find this interesting or helpful.. New studies with rats indicate that capsaicin in chili peppers may be very helpful in increasing pain / heat tolerance and lowering the pain signal in animals, as well as humans.
This article points out that the pain relief is present, but other adverse effects of anaesthetics are avoided.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/03/health/webmd/main3327165.shtml
Someone else's chili / lemon peanuts were put into my bag at the grocery store, and I decided to go ahead and try some. I've never quite understood the Mexican tendency to put chili powder on every imaginable snack food (including fresh fruit), but I know what it's all about, now!
The first handful brought a little bit of discomfort, but soon I was gulping them down. I ate half a bag and put them down, then noticed the euphoric feeling of well being which I am familiar with from eating my favorite chili, the Pasilla chili (main ingredient of authentic chiles rellenos).
I got curious and decided to look for information on the analgesic properties of chiles. It's real!
Chiles are also known to be excellent sources of dietary fiber and because of their rich colors, they are probably also good sources of antioxidants and certain vitamins, when fresh. They are also said to improve the immune response.
We have a large Latino population in my area and the men who work in heavy labor LOVE chilis.. the hotter the better! They gulp them down like candy. They probably get a relief from the chronic pain, fatigue and heat associated with outdoor labor, I've never noticed a benefit from any hot green chilis other than the Pasilla (pah-see-ya). Those are like ambrosia! NOT hot to the taste, in most cases (but chilis are individuals, and you may get a hot one), but you get the same wonderful effect of a mild euphoria and relaxation after eating them. Like most chilis, they must be burned or poached in oil, then scraped, to remove the skin before they can be used in recipes. Chiles prepared in this manner can be frozen in blocks and stored in the freezer. You can carve off what you want and use in recipes like chili. Again, Pasilla is generally mild, but you can get a hot one now and then.
This article points out that the pain relief is present, but other adverse effects of anaesthetics are avoided.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/03/health/webmd/main3327165.shtml
Someone else's chili / lemon peanuts were put into my bag at the grocery store, and I decided to go ahead and try some. I've never quite understood the Mexican tendency to put chili powder on every imaginable snack food (including fresh fruit), but I know what it's all about, now!
The first handful brought a little bit of discomfort, but soon I was gulping them down. I ate half a bag and put them down, then noticed the euphoric feeling of well being which I am familiar with from eating my favorite chili, the Pasilla chili (main ingredient of authentic chiles rellenos).
I got curious and decided to look for information on the analgesic properties of chiles. It's real!
Chiles are also known to be excellent sources of dietary fiber and because of their rich colors, they are probably also good sources of antioxidants and certain vitamins, when fresh. They are also said to improve the immune response.
We have a large Latino population in my area and the men who work in heavy labor LOVE chilis.. the hotter the better! They gulp them down like candy. They probably get a relief from the chronic pain, fatigue and heat associated with outdoor labor, I've never noticed a benefit from any hot green chilis other than the Pasilla (pah-see-ya). Those are like ambrosia! NOT hot to the taste, in most cases (but chilis are individuals, and you may get a hot one), but you get the same wonderful effect of a mild euphoria and relaxation after eating them. Like most chilis, they must be burned or poached in oil, then scraped, to remove the skin before they can be used in recipes. Chiles prepared in this manner can be frozen in blocks and stored in the freezer. You can carve off what you want and use in recipes like chili. Again, Pasilla is generally mild, but you can get a hot one now and then.
by Nans gsd on 19 July 2010 - 14:07
No I havent heard of capsasian but I have heard of Boswellia, capsules for dogs and people. I am currently trying Boswellia; so far so good. No side affects that I can tell; although I just am taking l per day; you can go up to 3 if needed?? We'll see. Nan

by VonIsengard on 19 July 2010 - 14:07
I know what relieves the pain of a dog whose belly is cramped with hunger. Feeding it. Right, Janice?
www.pet-abuse.com/cases/8106/CA/US/#UPDATES
www.pet-abuse.com/cases/8106/CA/US/#UPDATES

by Two Moons on 19 July 2010 - 16:07
If humans want to ingest such things fine, they have a choice, but I wish people would stop trying to give their animals things they do not want or need and would not consume on their own.
If your dogs in pain figure out why and treat the cause, not the symptom.
The eating of peppers is a cultural thing, not a miracle cure.
If your dogs in pain figure out why and treat the cause, not the symptom.
The eating of peppers is a cultural thing, not a miracle cure.

by Pharaoh on 19 July 2010 - 16:07
KCzaja,
So true. Starvation is very painful and so is not having any water. It is a long slow painful death. The poor dogs body slowly consumes itself and the organs slowly fail. Horrible agony.
Feed and water your dogs Janice Bartmess.
Sincerely,
Michele
So true. Starvation is very painful and so is not having any water. It is a long slow painful death. The poor dogs body slowly consumes itself and the organs slowly fail. Horrible agony.
Feed and water your dogs Janice Bartmess.
Sincerely,
Michele

by Two Moons on 19 July 2010 - 16:07
Now if you can find me some Coca leaf I'd be glad to chew them.

by Pharaoh on 19 July 2010 - 16:07
For those of you who actually feed your dogs, this is a tried and true recipe. It is especially good for elderly dogs. Many vets carry it and recommend it. It is best to search for price, vets charge twice the price. It has glucosamine and chondroitin along with well known anti-inflammatories. This preparation is made for dogs. It does not have any side effects and will reduce the needed amount of medications that do. My dogs lived on this when they got old. Eventually Deramaxx was needed but in a lower dose.

Michele

Michele

by DDR-DSH on 20 July 2010 - 11:07
Pharoah, you must be speaking from experience. I'm sorry you have starved your dogs. Now, go give them food and water. They will feel better and won't die.
You see, anyone can make an accusation, can't they?
You believe everything what you read in the newspaper (or republication of it), then I think you are a fool.
LA Times and other papers did not pick up / print the story.
The woman who owned / ran that little rag of a newspaper was a big friend / supporter of animal control. THEY are the ones who are most cruel to dogs. Dogs are simply impounded property to them, to be held for a lien, then sold either alive or dead to the renderers.. So that YOU can buy the "protein powder" and feed it to YOUR dogs.
Do you know what happens when you starve your brain? It rots. Try thinking, and that means weighing both sides, not just ONE side, which is no challenge at all to a simple, half rotted mind. Save what's left.. try thinking.
Daily Breeze (a formerly tiny regional newspaper) is probably hanging by a thread, along with other Knight / Ridder publications. That woman who owned Daily Breeze is dead, now, for several years. I am still alive and enjoying life, so I could care less.
The untold story was the suffering and wholesale death of the dogs in the impound, where as many as four adult dogs were forced to lie in their own soft / liquid feces in a four by four foot square indoor concrete floor that got hosed out from the inside.. occasionally. I challenged that reporter to go and tell the public about that, and he said he was not allowed to.
You see, anyone can make an accusation, can't they?
You believe everything what you read in the newspaper (or republication of it), then I think you are a fool.
LA Times and other papers did not pick up / print the story.
The woman who owned / ran that little rag of a newspaper was a big friend / supporter of animal control. THEY are the ones who are most cruel to dogs. Dogs are simply impounded property to them, to be held for a lien, then sold either alive or dead to the renderers.. So that YOU can buy the "protein powder" and feed it to YOUR dogs.
Do you know what happens when you starve your brain? It rots. Try thinking, and that means weighing both sides, not just ONE side, which is no challenge at all to a simple, half rotted mind. Save what's left.. try thinking.
Daily Breeze (a formerly tiny regional newspaper) is probably hanging by a thread, along with other Knight / Ridder publications. That woman who owned Daily Breeze is dead, now, for several years. I am still alive and enjoying life, so I could care less.
The untold story was the suffering and wholesale death of the dogs in the impound, where as many as four adult dogs were forced to lie in their own soft / liquid feces in a four by four foot square indoor concrete floor that got hosed out from the inside.. occasionally. I challenged that reporter to go and tell the public about that, and he said he was not allowed to.

by DDR-DSH on 20 July 2010 - 11:07
And, Two Moons.. The comment about the coca leaves.. Is that a racial slur, or do you need to see someone about a drug problem? I guess you don't like Mexican food? Rats apparently do, and I suppose so do Chihuahuas.. LOL

by DDR-DSH on 20 July 2010 - 11:07
The glucosamine / chondroitin thing has been around awhile. It can't hurt, other than your wallet / purse. Other fads that have come and gone have been yucca root and DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide), which is a solvent. I don't know what ever came of that, but I believe my mother was using it for her arthritis and she ended up with Parkinson's. I would not rule out a connection between solvent / chemical exposure and degredation of the substantia negra in the brain, which causes Parkinson's. It was all the rage, in it's day, but no way I would use that stuff. Said to give pain relief and a garlic-y taste in the mouth.
The capsaicin in chili peppers has been used in food for thousands of years, and is known to bring health benefits. In the context of the study findings, it offers promise for raising pain threshholds on a short term, non steroidal and non-narcotic basis.
The capsaicin in chili peppers has been used in food for thousands of years, and is known to bring health benefits. In the context of the study findings, it offers promise for raising pain threshholds on a short term, non steroidal and non-narcotic basis.
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