critique these please..Purebred longcoat or ??? - Page 4

I truly don't know what Vickie did as far as this mixed breed litter, I have been in contact with the Owners of Quark since They got her back from Vickie and even as the bitch was whelping.
There is NO match to Darko of course. There is an even mix of something German shepherd x ? they all look way to similiar to have more than one "other" breed sire.
I have already sent in a DNA sample for comparison on another pup that Vickie Sold to see if they match up as the girl that bought the pup said she had to see me to get the litter papers. Vickie avoided her as she does everyone she is screwing with when it is time to fess up, and/or she gets hateful with the buyers. NOT a good thing to do! DNA results should be back any day now.
Vickie posted on this database about a woman in Florida being a HACK AND A LIAR  for using a picture she didn't have permission to use, WOW---who's calling the kettle black? Vickie, what you have done is a 100 times worse than someone using a picture....

Mahon posted something about a Sociopath on a different thread and boy does it ever fit Vickie/powerhaus kennels to a T!

Bonnie
Leckhausshepherds

Quarks' Owners have really thought about suing Vickie, they live in Georgia though and they travel on their job so don't know if that will happen unless some of the others that have been scammed will get together and file a law suit of sometype all together. That might happen.
I will relay the message to them about being owed for more than one litter possibly and the 6.6 average litter thing. Thank you for that tidbit VM. I do not own Quark, she belongs to a friend.
I'm learning more every day on the ups and downs of this dog business. :) So VM, did you finally get your pups and papers?
That sounds pretty rough to me. I hope it worked out for you.

Weezy, let us know how the DNA comparison turns out on this last one. good luck! Maybe you and Quarks owners and some of the others will be able to do something about this.

Crys,
Your welcome, Misty is a looker and I have a small soft spot for Aussies, especially the Blue merle's. :)
K9Cadet

that father does not look like the type that would even carry a long coat recessive,you could always get one of those DNA tests they sell at Petsmart to determine breed, at least you would have an idea who the offending party was . They look like maybe Golden I would not think Flatcoat only because those are not common at all

I met Vickie the last time I was in Oklahoma, we both attended the same seminar.  She also has been a long time member of this board.  She has always been a straight shooter.   Hopefully she will post to this thread, I am sure there is a logical explanation for all this.

I actually have Darko at my kennel, he belongs to a friend of mine who breeds, he is an awesome dog and I have bred him with a female here, pups due in January, I will let you know if any longcoats show up.
Looking at the picks I certainly wouldn't expect that from any good shepherd breeding, look alot like shepherd/belgian shepherd(the black long coat variety-Groenandel) or Golden is a possibilty, Flat coat is possible, but without DNA testing there is no way to know.
Had this female been bred before bieng sent off? If not the vet may be able to examine her and determine if she actually has been bred more than once, and I would absolutely get DNA on the pups and go after her for the loss of heat and litter.

" So VM, did you finally get your pups and papers?
That sounds pretty rough to me. I hope it worked out for you."

I got two pups and my bitch, and it took 12k in legal fees. I have no idea what ever became of any of the others. She threatened to have me arrested when I went to her house to find out. Friends in "high" places .

Sueincc, I'm with you...hope there's a good explanation. 

I just had a litter of pups out of Darko there were 3 and all 3 were dead upon birth, I am devastated.

So, has this Vickie person ever shown up?
Those pups are mutts, pure and simple.
I would be suing the crap out of her.