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by VomRuiz on 30 June 2010 - 09:06
Tarek,
Your honesty is appreciated and I'm willing to bet that someone will read this and learn something from it.
Mainly, to err on the side of caution when taking grown dogs with temperament issues.
Oftentimes breeders are put in this situation when they take back a dog as promised in their contract, and it's not always the happy ending they hope for or expect.
Of course we were all hoping for the best outcome for you and Good Boy, but your misfortune may keep someone else safe, so thank you for sharing.
Again, I think you made a wise decision.
On another note,
Do you feel that the dog hotel will be a good/safe place for Good Boy?
I worry about these strangers who will be caring for him getting hurt by him. I hate to say it but he has now proven to be a dangerous dog :-(
What a shame... Anyway sorry for your grief, but it was kind of you to give it your best shot to try to help him and his owner. If you hear any updates on his adjustment, we'd be interested to know how he is doing
All the best,
Stacy
Your honesty is appreciated and I'm willing to bet that someone will read this and learn something from it.
Mainly, to err on the side of caution when taking grown dogs with temperament issues.
Oftentimes breeders are put in this situation when they take back a dog as promised in their contract, and it's not always the happy ending they hope for or expect.
Of course we were all hoping for the best outcome for you and Good Boy, but your misfortune may keep someone else safe, so thank you for sharing.
Again, I think you made a wise decision.
On another note,
Do you feel that the dog hotel will be a good/safe place for Good Boy?
I worry about these strangers who will be caring for him getting hurt by him. I hate to say it but he has now proven to be a dangerous dog :-(
What a shame... Anyway sorry for your grief, but it was kind of you to give it your best shot to try to help him and his owner. If you hear any updates on his adjustment, we'd be interested to know how he is doing
All the best,
Stacy

by Keith Grossman on 30 June 2010 - 15:06
I hate to play the devil's advocate here but you may be jumping the gun just a bit classifying this as a dangerous dog. Taking into consideration that the dog was removed from familiar surroundings, put on a plane, met by someone other than his owner at the other end, put in a kennel surrounded by other dogs, barking, etc., I think you're asking a bit much to expect the dog not to bite when a stranger enters his enclosure a few days after his arrival.
by tarekallam on 30 June 2010 - 15:06
K Grossman- This is a very dissent explanation which I very much accept to be the nearest reason for the dog's aggressive behaviors. It is also the explanation which his actual owner said to me over the telephone.
By the way for the hotel people to receive Good Boy from the airport they had to tranquilized him till his arrival to his final destination.
Thanks
By the way for the hotel people to receive Good Boy from the airport they had to tranquilized him till his arrival to his final destination.
Thanks
by tarekallam on 30 June 2010 - 15:06
Just been informed now that his owner will return to Dubai or a couple of days to arrange for Good boy to accompany him to Abu Dabi. GOOD LUCK FOR BOTH OF THEM.

by steve1 on 30 June 2010 - 16:06
What has happened after Tarek told us from the beginning what he was hoping for after such a long time it was a great shame that it did not work out
Personally too many people who love dogs, We all do none more than i, but a lot of people look at them in the wrong way
As Loyal as they can be Dogs are Dogs they are not human they do not think as we humans do,
But i think many people think differently and that is not the way to look at these fine creatures,
By looking at them in the same light as a human being they are not really doing the dog any favours
Steve1
Personally too many people who love dogs, We all do none more than i, but a lot of people look at them in the wrong way
As Loyal as they can be Dogs are Dogs they are not human they do not think as we humans do,
But i think many people think differently and that is not the way to look at these fine creatures,
By looking at them in the same light as a human being they are not really doing the dog any favours
Steve1

by Keith Grossman on 30 June 2010 - 17:06
Tarek originally asked us if we thought the dog would remember him and it did. That notwithstanding, it takes a dog some time to become accustomed and comfortable in new surroundings and this dog's reaction to someone entering his kennel is not surprising in the least. This situation is unfortunate but could easily have been avoided had the only person the dog knew, Tarek, taken him out of his enclosure and put him into another while his area and/or water bowl were being cleaned by his kennel helper.

by Jenni78 on 30 June 2010 - 17:06
I totally agree w/Keith.
Why should the dog not bite a stranger after all he's been through? Why is it that dogs are not allowed to defend themselves? How could this dog possibly understand what was going on and not see this kennel cleaner as a potential threat, especially when he's (in his mind) totally on his own w/really no one he's bonded to nearby. Not saying the dog's behavior was appropriate, but the humans are the ones we should've expected a bit more common sense from.
And lastly..................where are all these aggressive dogs when I want one? There are never any to be found and yet I keep hearing of all these "dangerous dogs." Every one I'm able to get my hands on turns out to be a non-aggressive disappointment.
I took one in from NY when his options were to be PTS or come to Chicago. He was aggressive, too. And I knew it. I simply didn't let anyone else near him (it took me 3 days to get close enough to put a collar on him) until I'd worked w/him enough that I felt comfortable that I could read him properly. He was a big showline wuss, when it came down to it. He was simply out of his element and looking out for himself the only way he knew how.
TOTALLY avoidable incident, Tarek. Not to say I don't sympathize with you, because I do and you had the best of intentions, but I sympathize with the dog more than anyone. Now he's stuck in a kennel (doggie hotel, pardon me) with NO ONE he is comfortable with, all because he acted like, well, he acted like a DOG.
Why should the dog not bite a stranger after all he's been through? Why is it that dogs are not allowed to defend themselves? How could this dog possibly understand what was going on and not see this kennel cleaner as a potential threat, especially when he's (in his mind) totally on his own w/really no one he's bonded to nearby. Not saying the dog's behavior was appropriate, but the humans are the ones we should've expected a bit more common sense from.
And lastly..................where are all these aggressive dogs when I want one? There are never any to be found and yet I keep hearing of all these "dangerous dogs." Every one I'm able to get my hands on turns out to be a non-aggressive disappointment.

I took one in from NY when his options were to be PTS or come to Chicago. He was aggressive, too. And I knew it. I simply didn't let anyone else near him (it took me 3 days to get close enough to put a collar on him) until I'd worked w/him enough that I felt comfortable that I could read him properly. He was a big showline wuss, when it came down to it. He was simply out of his element and looking out for himself the only way he knew how.
TOTALLY avoidable incident, Tarek. Not to say I don't sympathize with you, because I do and you had the best of intentions, but I sympathize with the dog more than anyone. Now he's stuck in a kennel (doggie hotel, pardon me) with NO ONE he is comfortable with, all because he acted like, well, he acted like a DOG.
by tarekallam on 30 June 2010 - 18:06
Jennie- Based upon my little experience with GSDs in comparison with the majority of you people, I consider Good Boy\s behavior as an exception one .For example i imported my main stud GSD BOB from Hungary & he was at the time approximately 22 months old .BOB does very good bit work / protection & also obedience. I received him from Cairo airport approximately 300 kms from Alexandria City where I live, my wife drove us back with me sitting next to him on the back seat with his head on my lap & my hand patting his head all the way back, relaxing him & trying to gain his confidence. He stayed with me in the house for approximately 3 months during which time I used to take him for exercising twice per day each for approximately 2 hours each time. We are currently very good friends & he is very loyal to me & all my family members. He never showed any signs of aggression whatsoever. He know lives in the kennel with the same cleaner cleans his kennel everyday, he has never showed any aggression to the boy & he accepted him with no problems. So between me & you your thumbs are never alike.
by tarekallam on 30 June 2010 - 18:06
Keith & Jenni- Don't you both agree that there are good temperament dogs & bad temperaments ones. Despite of everything & under all circumstances & conditions Good Boy is bad temperamnet one.

by RLHAR on 30 June 2010 - 18:06
Why should the dog not bite a stranger after all he's been through? Why is it that dogs are not allowed to defend themselves? How could this dog possibly understand what was going on and not see this kennel cleaner as a potential threat, especially when he's (in his mind) totally on his own w/really no one he's bonded to nearby.
Jennie I'm sorry but I have to respectfully disagree with you here.
My male is bred off high drive lines. He was 5 months old when he was shipped from Europe and had a total of over 48 hours in a crate, passing through strange hands.
When I opened the crate at the airport, a total stranger to him he bounced out the door with a hug and a friendly, confident sniff and tail wag for everyone in that large hanger. I have no doubt that *I* was more unnerved by the airport than he was!
That confidence is what I want out of a GSD and the only thing I would allow into my house and around my young child. Tarek has children and at the end of the day their safety has to come first. It's one thing to take on a dangerous, unpredictable dog when it's only your adult self or other adults in the equation, it's irresponsible to throw children into the mix and just hope for the best. Irresponsible to both the dog in question and the children.
Tarek, I'm sorry for your sake that it turned out like this because it sounds as if you had a very special relationship with this dog but I'm glad to hear he'll be reunited with his owner soon.
Jennie I'm sorry but I have to respectfully disagree with you here.
My male is bred off high drive lines. He was 5 months old when he was shipped from Europe and had a total of over 48 hours in a crate, passing through strange hands.
When I opened the crate at the airport, a total stranger to him he bounced out the door with a hug and a friendly, confident sniff and tail wag for everyone in that large hanger. I have no doubt that *I* was more unnerved by the airport than he was!
That confidence is what I want out of a GSD and the only thing I would allow into my house and around my young child. Tarek has children and at the end of the day their safety has to come first. It's one thing to take on a dangerous, unpredictable dog when it's only your adult self or other adults in the equation, it's irresponsible to throw children into the mix and just hope for the best. Irresponsible to both the dog in question and the children.
Tarek, I'm sorry for your sake that it turned out like this because it sounds as if you had a very special relationship with this dog but I'm glad to hear he'll be reunited with his owner soon.
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