critique these please..Purebred longcoat or ??? - Page 3

If you didn't tell me that there was GSD in there I wouldn't be sure.  They look like Flat-coated retriever mixes to me, too.

Nice pups, and will probably make great companion dogs, but not GSDs, that's certain!

Thank you everyone..
It does look like a flat coated retriever doesn't it!?....
I asked the owner of the pups and she said it is ok to put it on here.
Here is the story:
The lady sent her female to a person in Oklahoma to be bred. this person in Oklahoma had the Bitch while in heat. told the owner that she didn't take. Since the owner lives in another state, she contacted the person in Oklahoma and asked about her Bitch and wondered when she could pick her up, since the Bitch didn't settle, the breeder said to leave her and she would try again. So she did. A few months went by and the Owner Contacted the breeder and asked about her dog getting bred.
The breeder told her she was bred, but didn't look like she was going to have anything. The Owners made arrangments to meet half way to pick up their female, and the breeder changed plans at the last minute and wouldn't meet with said owner, so the Owner drove from Georgia to Oklahoma on Sunday and took their dog home, they were very upset at the condition of the dog, being thin and looking nothing like when they took her there, Late the following Wednesday night, early Thursday Morning, 3-4 days from getting her home she whelped those 3 puppies. They looked pretty black with some lighter hairs mixed through them. anyway there were only 3 pups born and the stud fee was paid prior to being left at the first breeding.
The owner said the Person in Oklahoma didn't let them go to the house, that she brought the Bitch out to them on a leash
and was very rude to them from then on. She never gave them anything signed for the litter to AKC register them and she had told them that the Sire was AKC registered. From then on, it was just grief and a lot of upset feelings. They never received any paperwork from her to Register this litter, I guess I can see why.
anyway,
The Dam is second picture,her name is Quark: and Also the supposed Sire: They are both on the Database.
The kennel's name is; Powerhaus and the person is Vickie Lanig.
maybe some of you have heard of other dealings with this Kennel. 

Crys,
I think your Aussie cross border is very pretty. You would hardly know the difference. 

I will never, never leave my bitch with someone.  The only time I did, the results were horrifying, and it cost me a fortune in legal fees to get her back again. NEVER NEVER NEVER!!!!!! I got gypped out of puppies, too, which I found out by talking to AKC about how many puppies my girl was reported to have had in her litter. How much you want to bet that in your case, the first breeding DID result in GSD puppies?

Vickie posts here often....wow, is all I can say.

Vickie? Powerhaus?  I am stunned.  Not sure why, I don't know her...but just felt I might like her from her posts.  Come on Vicke, defend yourself!  If this is true you need to "girl up" and cough up a refund - pronto.

There is a good possibility that the first breeding did result in pups if you think about it.
So there is no one else that has had  trouble with  this kennel that is willing to post on here?

Well what do you know.
I guess things eventually come back to bite ya.
Darko was at powerhaus kennels and Vickie was using him to breed knowing that he was not AKC registered at the time.
I bought/paid for Darko and an arrangment was made with Vickie to show him in Schutzhund to get his name out there.
However, I never received a penny on any stud fee or puppies sold. I received copies of his papers and never got his real papers until end of March 2009 at which time it took forever to get it all done and get him DNA'd and AKC'd. I do know that she used him to breed some dogs, including her own, which would have been ok, but not selling them with AKC papers when there were none. It turned into a big mess and there are still dogs/pups out there without their AKC papers now. I was contacted by some that had set up a breeding with Vickie but that fell through because I told them He was NOT AKC registered yet.
I know some of the bred females were sold unter the false pretense of  getting the pups akc registered out of Darko.
Vickie, What did you do with the last female pup you had that Darko was the sire? no papers! Did you tell them she was Registered? but you can't give them the papers can you?! How many have you now sent to me to get papers that don't belong to my female? but do belong to Darko? As we speak all my adult dogs are being DNA profiled, males and females.
You told alot of people you Owned Darko and never mentioned a thing about me did you?
Weren't you trying to sell Quark on your website when you were having family problems? sure looks like the same dog. You never had her AKC papers, she was never yours, you told me she was your new female at one time.
I don't know what happen to you, but you need to quit blaming others for your problems and quit ruining all the good breeders reputations on this board.
Back in the spring, you were posting alot of crap and having yourself a pity party and trying to make me look bad on this board, why? I did nothing but try to get you to do what was right and stop screwing people over. Seems like you have screwed several people over, maybe they will come forward and post what you have done as well.....
Bonnie
Leckhaus Shepherds

Wow, no way thats the father.  Hes DNA'ed already, DNA the puppies and take her to court.  Id sue for loss of income (missed breeding) as well as the stud fee, boarding and court costs.

OMG, what a kettle of worms. Do people think this stuff will never come back to bite them in the butt? The woman who stole my puppies most certainly believed that nobody would have the nads to fight her...but she picked on the wrong Mick. Vickie, I truly hope there's a plain and honest answer.

K9C, do not forget to sue for the original litter too. That's two litters she owes you for.  And definitely contact the AKC and tell them as much as you can document. Find out if she sent for a litter registration, too. If she owns that male, you can bet your name was signed on a litter registration, with you or without you.

What happened to me was that the woman who had my bitch was entitled to keep one puppy. She told me my bitch had 3. So she does a litter registration for 4 puppies and either saved one for a spare to put on a rescue, or had an additional puppy she wasn't owning up to. My lawyer believed that there were FOUR she wasn't owning up to, and that's why she sent for four papers. She never intended to give me ANY pups, and never intended to give me papers on the ones I eventually did get. So she was stuck with two pups with no papers, but she sells to cops and most cops don't give a darn if their dogs are AKC or not.

NEVER NEVER leave your bitch with someone else to whelp!!!!!!!! You need to be there to witness it.

Added: Someone recently posted that the average litter is 6.6 puppies. Therefore, you have the right to be paid for 13 puppies. Maybe she lost them to inadequate care, since you said she looked bad...she still owes you for 13 puppies.