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VomRuiz

by VomRuiz on 21 July 2010 - 22:07

Maggie,
That was difficult to watch :-(
I felt very bad for the animals but I felt sad for the owners too. (Guess I am just not one of those "I love animals and hate all humankind"  people) You could tell they were overwhelmed and needed psychiatric help.
Vickie, that lady did look healthier! I thought the same thing when I saw her. She looked like a different person.
Stacy

MaggieMae

by MaggieMae on 22 July 2010 - 01:07

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AKGeorgias mom

by AKGeorgias mom on 22 July 2010 - 03:07

They probably are sick, but are in such a place mentally that they either don't realize it or don't have the resources to be able to get appropriate health care.  There's also a certain amount of tolerance they must develop because they are constantly exposed to it, sort of how when I taught preschool I brought home every possible illness in the first few months but after about 6 months I stopped catching the illnesses from the kids (because I already had caught it all!).

As much as the living conditions are usually so horrendous, it's obvious that for the most part the people truly think they are doing the right thing by "saving" the animals.  It's such a sad situation that really has it's roots in serious mental illness.

Opal

DDR-DSH

by DDR-DSH on 22 July 2010 - 06:07

AKGeorgiasMom is right. They are finding out now that kids who are raised in super clean homes are far more likely, statistically, to develop allergies and autoimmune problems or immune deficiencies later in life. We actually NEED some exposure to microbes and such to be healthy.. strange, but true.

A lot of this stuff is really overplayed. If you take the time to really learn something about the immune system and how various diseases are spread, you will find out that there is more to it than most people know. Funny.. I watched a little film in the school cafeteria when I was about seven years old, and that fascinated me.. I totally got it and understood the basic process of immune response but I think most people don't know. Dogs, people, etc. do not get sick from feces and urine, but from feces and urine from sick animals.. sick with something the well animal has never been exposed to. Even then, stress and diet have so much to do with the immune response. And, it is the things you cannot see which cause illness, right? Are microbes and viruses visible to the eye? No! Feces and urine MIGHT be infected with a pathogenic agent, but ordinary household items or hands and feet can spread disease. This is called a "fomite", when an object or surface becomes a carrier.

Anyway.. The trailer really looked pretty darned clean, to me. I could just see the poor woman had worked herself to the nubs, doing that day in and day out.

By the way, I went to a lecture by Linda Sinclair, DVM (HSUS speaker) on shelter hygiene and the attendance was huge. When asked to raise hands if those present had serious problems with disease in their facility, approximately 90% of the attendees raised their hands high. I sensed desperation. But, think about it.. If the very serious MRSA (methicillin resistant staphylococcus aureus) has become such a huge problem in human hospitals, which have limited visitation, widespread use of disinfectants, strict hygiene practices, rapid turnover of disposables and autoclaving of instruments, then how are you going to expect a made-over dog im-POUND to be disease free? The fact is that no matter how many times you hose a kennel out, you are never going to get rid of endemic diseases in these environments by removing all visible evidences of feces and urine. Bacteria, microbes, viruses, etc are NOT VISIBLE!!!! Hellooo!!!! Whereas feces and urine MAY be pathways to infection, they are not in themselves dangerous to animals and humans.. ONLY under certain circumstances.

VomRuiz

by VomRuiz on 22 July 2010 - 20:07

I agree with Opal too. They must be sick. The cat people probably have toxoplasmosis...Living in squalor is unhealthy for the dogs as well as humans.
Back years ago I had a friend whose mother was a cat collector. All 30+ cats had URIs, so snotty noses and eyes, sneezing all the time, very sickly. And it started out with TWO unaltered cats and they kept all the offspring. The cats were so inbred that they started having genetic defects at birth toward the end, eventually the mother cats started abandoning the litters completely .
The cats (and house) looked like the one man's with an entire room that was a giant litter box and the rest of the rooms in the house had feces and urine everywhere. You could literally smell the house before you could see it :-(
I hated going there because I always left smelling like the house. My friend had to come to high school smelling like that (even her clothes right out of the dryer smelled) and she was teased mercilessly.
Very sad...
Stacy





 


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