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by VKFGSD on 15 July 2010 - 17:07
Have you taken any dogs to the shelter today Molly?
by Keith Grossman on 15 July 2010 - 17:07
Seriously? Do we not already have enough of this Molly/Shelley bullshit on this forum without it spilling over into every other thread as well? I'm over it and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Here's a clue: it's between the two of them and they'll either work it out or not...it isn't any of the rest of our business.
by VKFGSD on 15 July 2010 - 18:07
Yes Seriously Keith.
This is just a way to let newbies know that Molly is not the end of and be all and to let Molly know that the GSD community will not tolerate threats to place well bred dogs in public shelters for spite.
Since Molly chooses not to end the drama then she gets to live with the consequences.
Sort of like shunning in the Amish community.
This is just a way to let newbies know that Molly is not the end of and be all and to let Molly know that the GSD community will not tolerate threats to place well bred dogs in public shelters for spite.
Since Molly chooses not to end the drama then she gets to live with the consequences.
Sort of like shunning in the Amish community.
by Scarlet Akai on 15 July 2010 - 18:07
Don't we have more than enough drama on two threads that refuse to die to last this board years. Haines asked a ligitimate question, and Eichenluft gave a helpful response. Regardless what you think of her can we PLEAAASE not hijack this board with the nonsense.
Some of us would really like to continue hearing what people have to say on the original posters topic.
Something that won't happen if this thread degrades into yet another battle in which no side wins loses or even advances.
Some of us would really like to continue hearing what people have to say on the original posters topic.
Something that won't happen if this thread degrades into yet another battle in which no side wins loses or even advances.
by VKFGSD on 15 July 2010 - 20:07
Keith,
On reflection I do owe you an apology and I have changed my query above. By asking Molly where Gabi is does put the focus on the drama between the two women when the focus needs to be on Molly's outrageous blatant admitted to behavior with respect to German Shepherd dogs. Thus I have changed the question because yes I do think threatening to take a dam and litter to the shelter is outrageous and irresponsible to the animals invovled and to the breed especially coming from a "Breed Warden" . I also personally think that promising in writing an owner that she will never ever know what happened to that bitch and her pups is so far beyond the pale that she does need to be shunned by the GSD community.
So while I too would like to see some serious educational discussion on this board - Molly Graf does not belong in that discussion based on her own actions and statements and if nothing else people should be educated to that.
On reflection I do owe you an apology and I have changed my query above. By asking Molly where Gabi is does put the focus on the drama between the two women when the focus needs to be on Molly's outrageous blatant admitted to behavior with respect to German Shepherd dogs. Thus I have changed the question because yes I do think threatening to take a dam and litter to the shelter is outrageous and irresponsible to the animals invovled and to the breed especially coming from a "Breed Warden" . I also personally think that promising in writing an owner that she will never ever know what happened to that bitch and her pups is so far beyond the pale that she does need to be shunned by the GSD community.
So while I too would like to see some serious educational discussion on this board - Molly Graf does not belong in that discussion based on her own actions and statements and if nothing else people should be educated to that.
by Scarlet Akai on 15 July 2010 - 20:07
Doglady: In your contract I noticed that the requirements of the stud are less than that of the female?
Is that becase your contract is written from the point of view that it's your dog studding so that you aren't concerned about hip scores, possible standard faults and temperameant? ( meaning not concerned because you are already in full knowledge of how the dog complies to these standards)
Or is it because people typically people look for studs to go with their Dams instead of the other way around so it is assumed that the Dam owner already likes the Studs prospects. Excuse me if I sound curt Not trying to question your breeding ethics or anything just an honest question.
Is that becase your contract is written from the point of view that it's your dog studding so that you aren't concerned about hip scores, possible standard faults and temperameant? ( meaning not concerned because you are already in full knowledge of how the dog complies to these standards)
Or is it because people typically people look for studs to go with their Dams instead of the other way around so it is assumed that the Dam owner already likes the Studs prospects. Excuse me if I sound curt Not trying to question your breeding ethics or anything just an honest question.
by eichenluft on 16 July 2010 - 03:07
Sorry VK good buddy - I am in this discussion and deserve to be, as an established and RESPECTED breeder and stud dog owner. You don't get to make the call of who gets to participate in a discussion and who doesn't. Go take a hike. Maybe to a place where you can learn some facts before blabbing more bullshit on this board.
molly
EICHENLUFT Working German Shepherds
http://workinggermanshepherd.com
molly
EICHENLUFT Working German Shepherds
http://workinggermanshepherd.com
by nonacona60 on 16 July 2010 - 03:07
Molly, Just ignore the Bulls--t from the trouble seeking posters that never contribute anything of value, but just creates tension on here...
No one cares what they have to say or their opinions anyway...
This seems like the same actions of another poster but under a different name. That other poster did the same thing. He just jumped from thread to thread bringing up old bulls--t about the same thing that was dead and gone...Just couldn't give it a rest.. Guess its your turn now...Just giving someone else a rest..I'm sorry for you...
No one cares what they have to say or their opinions anyway...
This seems like the same actions of another poster but under a different name. That other poster did the same thing. He just jumped from thread to thread bringing up old bulls--t about the same thing that was dead and gone...Just couldn't give it a rest.. Guess its your turn now...Just giving someone else a rest..I'm sorry for you...
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