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by Dog1 on 12 June 2010 - 22:06
Lisa,
Thanks for stepping up. I'll add you to the growing list. We need more like you willing to contribute. Please contact me via e mail at j.ishler@att.net. I'll need your contact information. I'll pass on the information required for you to be a delegate and the dates so you can make sure you will be able to attend.
Thanks again!
Thanks for stepping up. I'll add you to the growing list. We need more like you willing to contribute. Please contact me via e mail at j.ishler@att.net. I'll need your contact information. I'll pass on the information required for you to be a delegate and the dates so you can make sure you will be able to attend.
Thanks again!
by Dog1 on 14 June 2010 - 09:06
I need to hear from 'FULL MEMBER CLUBS' as defined by the USCA by-laws. 'AFFILIATE CLUBS' cannot send a voting delegate. Make sure your club is a 'Full Member Club'
by TessJ10 on 14 June 2010 - 11:06
"I can not run for office, but I will be willing to represent a club and attend the election so that they can have a vote.
J let me know what the date is and if anyone needs someone to attend so that they have representation.
Lisa"
I thought there were no proxy votes? This came up elsewhere. Only a member of a club can vote; a club cannot designate someone who is not on that club's roster to represent them and vote for them at the meeting.
I'd hate for clubs to designate all these proxies only to have their votes thrown out after they travel all the way to Nevada. Also it would be good to clarify if the delegate has to be on the club's roster already submitted to USA. IOW, Lisa could join Club X in July and then go as it's delegate in November, but will USA say sorry, only delegates submitted on the club's roster when they paid their 2010 dues? Nitpicky, I know, but if USA can throw out votes, they're gonna throw out votes.
J let me know what the date is and if anyone needs someone to attend so that they have representation.
Lisa"
I thought there were no proxy votes? This came up elsewhere. Only a member of a club can vote; a club cannot designate someone who is not on that club's roster to represent them and vote for them at the meeting.
I'd hate for clubs to designate all these proxies only to have their votes thrown out after they travel all the way to Nevada. Also it would be good to clarify if the delegate has to be on the club's roster already submitted to USA. IOW, Lisa could join Club X in July and then go as it's delegate in November, but will USA say sorry, only delegates submitted on the club's roster when they paid their 2010 dues? Nitpicky, I know, but if USA can throw out votes, they're gonna throw out votes.
by vomgrobersee on 14 June 2010 - 11:06
Ishler,
Can you please find out if what Tess says is true? I have no problem joining a club to get this done.
Lisa
Can you please find out if what Tess says is true? I have no problem joining a club to get this done.
Lisa
by TessJ10 on 14 June 2010 - 12:06
That'd be great.
Remember to check not only if someone has to join a club, but if they had to have been members as of Jan. 1 or meet some other requirement that would preclude people joining clubs now and being delegates in November.
Also for clubs to make certain that their delegates vote as instructed. From another list it was mentioned that several clubs from the New England area I think (correct me if I'm wrong) were instructed to vote against the JA but once there at the meeting they changed their votes and voted for it.
Remember to check not only if someone has to join a club, but if they had to have been members as of Jan. 1 or meet some other requirement that would preclude people joining clubs now and being delegates in November.
Also for clubs to make certain that their delegates vote as instructed. From another list it was mentioned that several clubs from the New England area I think (correct me if I'm wrong) were instructed to vote against the JA but once there at the meeting they changed their votes and voted for it.
by Dog1 on 14 June 2010 - 15:06
Lisa,
The information I sent you is correct. I have a full member club I will be connecting you with shortly. I'll be happy to address Tess' statements as they are addressed in the USA By-Laws.
First let me say there should be no reason for USA to do anything other than welcome it's member clubs delegates. My purpose here is to help members make educated choices about the future of the USA organization and facilitate club representation. I'm hoping some of the current officers are worthy of re-election as well as some new candidates worthy of consideration. Right now we don't know who the candidates are. We are becoming organized while there is time so when it comes time to vote, the membership has a voice through club representation. It's that simple.
Before we look at the by-laws lets look at some statistics.
Here are the meeting minutes from the GBM last year. This was the meeting where the amendment affectionately known as the "JA" was voted upon. The entire meeting minutes are of significant value as I believe some of the information is misleading. I'll let those that care to read it draw their own conclusions.
http://germanshepherddog.com/documents/2009GBMMinutes.pdf
Please note the last items of new business address the 'JA'. This amendment was PASSED With Overwhelming Support from the board, RDs and delegates in attendence. There's a reason the 'JA' is still around. The majority of the people in attendence think it's a good idea. The list of people in attendence is attached to the minutes. You can see where the support for this amendment is.
To answer Tess's questions:
1. I thought there were no proxy votes? This came up elsewhere. Only a member of a club can vote; a club cannot designate someone who is not on that club's roster to represent them and vote for them at the meeting.
Response:
A club member cannot vote. Only a properly designated club delegate can vote.
Here's part of Article V, section 1, b
If in good standing, a full member club may send a voting Delegate to the meeting of the General Board.
2. Also it would be good to clarify if the delegate has to be on the club's roster already submitted to USA.
Response:
The by-laws address this also. The answer is found in two parts of the by-laws.
You are corect the clubs must send a roster as well as meet other requirements to be in 'Good Standing'. Those requirements are published . Refer to Article V, section 2, d.
d. A complete and current membership list, including full addresses and a list of the club officers, must be
included with the club’s annual dues. This information will be sent to the USA Office for verification.
Clubs that fail to submit both annual dues and membership lists will not be granted trial authorizations
by the Regional Director. Should club membership lists and dues not be submitted by the due date, any
previously approved trial authorizations will be recalled. Trial authorizations will be restored when dues
and membership lists are submitted and approved.
The by-laws address the delegate requirements in Section VII, section 1, e,f,and g.
e. Delegates
(i) Each full member club may send one (1) voting delegate and two (2) alternates to the meetings of
the General Board.
(ii) Each affiliated club may send one (1) nonvoting delegate to attend the meetings of the General
Board.
f. A delegate to USA shall be elected from the regular membership of each USA club. A full member club
may also e
The information I sent you is correct. I have a full member club I will be connecting you with shortly. I'll be happy to address Tess' statements as they are addressed in the USA By-Laws.
First let me say there should be no reason for USA to do anything other than welcome it's member clubs delegates. My purpose here is to help members make educated choices about the future of the USA organization and facilitate club representation. I'm hoping some of the current officers are worthy of re-election as well as some new candidates worthy of consideration. Right now we don't know who the candidates are. We are becoming organized while there is time so when it comes time to vote, the membership has a voice through club representation. It's that simple.
Before we look at the by-laws lets look at some statistics.
Here are the meeting minutes from the GBM last year. This was the meeting where the amendment affectionately known as the "JA" was voted upon. The entire meeting minutes are of significant value as I believe some of the information is misleading. I'll let those that care to read it draw their own conclusions.
http://germanshepherddog.com/documents/2009GBMMinutes.pdf
Please note the last items of new business address the 'JA'. This amendment was PASSED With Overwhelming Support from the board, RDs and delegates in attendence. There's a reason the 'JA' is still around. The majority of the people in attendence think it's a good idea. The list of people in attendence is attached to the minutes. You can see where the support for this amendment is.
To answer Tess's questions:
1. I thought there were no proxy votes? This came up elsewhere. Only a member of a club can vote; a club cannot designate someone who is not on that club's roster to represent them and vote for them at the meeting.
Response:
A club member cannot vote. Only a properly designated club delegate can vote.
Here's part of Article V, section 1, b
If in good standing, a full member club may send a voting Delegate to the meeting of the General Board.
2. Also it would be good to clarify if the delegate has to be on the club's roster already submitted to USA.
Response:
The by-laws address this also. The answer is found in two parts of the by-laws.
You are corect the clubs must send a roster as well as meet other requirements to be in 'Good Standing'. Those requirements are published . Refer to Article V, section 2, d.
d. A complete and current membership list, including full addresses and a list of the club officers, must be
included with the club’s annual dues. This information will be sent to the USA Office for verification.
Clubs that fail to submit both annual dues and membership lists will not be granted trial authorizations
by the Regional Director. Should club membership lists and dues not be submitted by the due date, any
previously approved trial authorizations will be recalled. Trial authorizations will be restored when dues
and membership lists are submitted and approved.
The by-laws address the delegate requirements in Section VII, section 1, e,f,and g.
e. Delegates
(i) Each full member club may send one (1) voting delegate and two (2) alternates to the meetings of
the General Board.
(ii) Each affiliated club may send one (1) nonvoting delegate to attend the meetings of the General
Board.
f. A delegate to USA shall be elected from the regular membership of each USA club. A full member club
may also e
by TessJ10 on 14 June 2010 - 15:06
I wasn't clear. Yes, I understand that a club member has no vote, but the CLUB has a vote via their delegate. I think this is a fine rule, considering the organization is an organization of CLUBS, not of individuals.
Sorry for the confusion. I meant [clarifications in bold]: "I thought there were no proxy votes? This came up elsewhere. Only a member of a club can vote if appointed as a delegate of a club in which they hold membership; a club cannot designate someone who is not on that club's roster to represent their club and cast a vote on behalf of their club at the meeting."
As to the membership roster:
"A complete and current membership list, including full addresses and a list of the club officers, must be
included with the club’s annual dues."
So if Lisa joins a club now, she won't be on the club's roster that was submitted when they paid their dues, therefore can she be a delegate? USA can say, sorry, she's not a member, she's not on the roster Club X submitted.
Can a club send an updated member roster to USA, or is the roster submission a once a year thing?
Again, being picky, but considering how close a vote got the JA passed, I expect that those who want to keep it will insist that those opposed do everything absolutely by the book in order to have their votes counted.
Sorry for the confusion. I meant [clarifications in bold]: "I thought there were no proxy votes? This came up elsewhere. Only a member of a club can vote if appointed as a delegate of a club in which they hold membership; a club cannot designate someone who is not on that club's roster to represent their club and cast a vote on behalf of their club at the meeting."
As to the membership roster:
"A complete and current membership list, including full addresses and a list of the club officers, must be
included with the club’s annual dues."
So if Lisa joins a club now, she won't be on the club's roster that was submitted when they paid their dues, therefore can she be a delegate? USA can say, sorry, she's not a member, she's not on the roster Club X submitted.
Can a club send an updated member roster to USA, or is the roster submission a once a year thing?
Again, being picky, but considering how close a vote got the JA passed, I expect that those who want to keep it will insist that those opposed do everything absolutely by the book in order to have their votes counted.
by Dog1 on 14 June 2010 - 16:06
Tess,
It looks like part of my post was cut off. There is no requirement for the delegate to be on the clubs annual roster to be a delegate. The delegate requirements are very clear. The delegate must be a member of the club but there is no requirement that the member be a member for over a year. The member that will be the designated delegate needs to be identified and sent to USA 30 days in advance.
It looks like part of my post was cut off. There is no requirement for the delegate to be on the clubs annual roster to be a delegate. The delegate requirements are very clear. The delegate must be a member of the club but there is no requirement that the member be a member for over a year. The member that will be the designated delegate needs to be identified and sent to USA 30 days in advance.
by vomgrobersee on 15 June 2010 - 03:06
bump
by Dog1 on 16 June 2010 - 12:06
Here's the list of Regional Directors and Delegates from the 2009 GBM. Talk to your Regional Directors, their votes are very important. Look at the list of clubs. If your club is on the list and there are X's by the delegates name, they were in attendence at the meeting. If your club is a full member club in good standing and not on the list. I need to hear from you. I have more people than clubs.
GENERAL BOARD MEETING DELEGATE LIST
1 President Lyle Roetemeyer X X
2 Vice President Craig Groh X X
3 Secretary Sara Wallick X X
4 Treasurer Sean O'Kane X X
5 Director of Judges Nathaniel Roque X X
6 National Breed Warden Tim Burke X X
7 Director at Large Al Govednik X X
8 Director at Large Johannes Grewe X X
9 Director at Large Terry Macias X X
10 Director at Large Frank Phillips X
11 Regional Director (North Central) Jennifer Acevedo X X
12 Regional Director (New England) Pia Blackwell X X
13 Regional Director (Southeastern) Arthur Collins
14 Regional Director (Mid-Central) Jeff Govednik X X
15 Regional Director (Northeastern) Pedro Jimenez X X
16 Regional Director (Pacific Northwest) Warren Jones X X
17 Regional Director (South Central) Dena McGowan X X
18 Regional Director (Southwestern) Thom Payne X X
19 Regional Director (Mid-Eastern) Mark Scarberry X X
20 Regional Director (Northwestern) David Witmer X
12 MID-CENTRAL REGION
1 Air Capital Schutzhund Club Ila Schmidt/Joann Letcher/Russ Osburn
2 Cedar Valley Working Dogs Dale Bennett X X
3 Denver Mile High Schutzhund Club Noah England/Jennifer Corso/Robert Corso X
4 High Plains Schutzhund Club Mark Chaffin/Ann Marie Chaffin X X
5 Illinois Schutzhund and Police Club Mark Chaffin/Mike Delaney/Carolyn Daniel X
6 Illinois South Central Schutzhund Club Harley McCombe
7 Machtig Strom Schutzhund Verein Marcia Govednik/Brad Stout X X
8 Mid-Rivers Schutzhund Club Dyan Harper X X
9 Mo-Kan Schutzhund Association Scott Boedecker/Char Tarleton/Scott Hedger X X
10 St. Louis Schutzhund Association Brian McCauley/John Newsham X X
11 Tornado Alley Schutzhund Club Cathy Clark/John Letcher/David Martin X X
12 Working Dogs of Central Illinois Bill Bimrose X X
11 MID-EASTERN REGION
1 Cedar Hill Working Dog Club Jeff Lund X X
2 Cumberland Valley Schutzhund & Police Club Debbie Roetemeyer X
3 Falconhurst Police Canine Corps Nancy Brigham/Dan Brigham X X
4 Harpeth River Schutzhund Group Dean Calderon/Mark Soccoccio/Karla Calderon
5 Metro-Detroit Schutzhund Club John Bochenek X X
6 Mid-Ohio Schutzhund Jim Alloway/Tom Gillies X X
7 Northern Indiana Schutzhund Club Thomas Quaka/Veronica Hoff/Cynthia Russsell X X
8 O.G. Buckeye Schutzhund Club Marcus Hampton/Dominic Scarberry X
9 O.G. Indianapolis Schutzhund und Polizei Mike Diehl/Carolyn Daniel/Jeff Lawless X
10 South Michigan Schutzhund & Police Club Lisa Clark/Sean Murphy/Donna Trouten X X
11 3 Rivers Working Dog Association Ron Byers/Ken Hilty/Ron Stokes X
7 NEW ENGLAND REGION
1 Baystate Police and Schutzhund Club Pia Blackwell
2 Empire Working Dog Club Debra Zappia/Patricia Bonino/Jody Potter X X
3 O.G. Boston Schutzhund Club Karen MacIntyre/Chris Banke/John Horan X
4 Ocean State Schutzhund Club Ron Fox X X
5 Outkast Schutzhund Club Claudia Romard X X
6 Quinebaug Schutzhund Club Don Yelle/Ivana Karlsen X X
7 Southern New Hampshire Working Dog Club Elizabeth Lindblom/Dee Clark X X
7 NORTH CENTRAL REGION
1 Hauptstadt Schutzhund Verein Shannon Robertson X X
2 Indian Creek Schutzhund Club Denise Piccicci/Chris Hruby/Jennifer Acevedo X X
3 Northern Illinois Schutzhund Club Chris
GENERAL BOARD MEETING DELEGATE LIST
1 President Lyle Roetemeyer X X
2 Vice President Craig Groh X X
3 Secretary Sara Wallick X X
4 Treasurer Sean O'Kane X X
5 Director of Judges Nathaniel Roque X X
6 National Breed Warden Tim Burke X X
7 Director at Large Al Govednik X X
8 Director at Large Johannes Grewe X X
9 Director at Large Terry Macias X X
10 Director at Large Frank Phillips X
11 Regional Director (North Central) Jennifer Acevedo X X
12 Regional Director (New England) Pia Blackwell X X
13 Regional Director (Southeastern) Arthur Collins
14 Regional Director (Mid-Central) Jeff Govednik X X
15 Regional Director (Northeastern) Pedro Jimenez X X
16 Regional Director (Pacific Northwest) Warren Jones X X
17 Regional Director (South Central) Dena McGowan X X
18 Regional Director (Southwestern) Thom Payne X X
19 Regional Director (Mid-Eastern) Mark Scarberry X X
20 Regional Director (Northwestern) David Witmer X
12 MID-CENTRAL REGION
1 Air Capital Schutzhund Club Ila Schmidt/Joann Letcher/Russ Osburn
2 Cedar Valley Working Dogs Dale Bennett X X
3 Denver Mile High Schutzhund Club Noah England/Jennifer Corso/Robert Corso X
4 High Plains Schutzhund Club Mark Chaffin/Ann Marie Chaffin X X
5 Illinois Schutzhund and Police Club Mark Chaffin/Mike Delaney/Carolyn Daniel X
6 Illinois South Central Schutzhund Club Harley McCombe
7 Machtig Strom Schutzhund Verein Marcia Govednik/Brad Stout X X
8 Mid-Rivers Schutzhund Club Dyan Harper X X
9 Mo-Kan Schutzhund Association Scott Boedecker/Char Tarleton/Scott Hedger X X
10 St. Louis Schutzhund Association Brian McCauley/John Newsham X X
11 Tornado Alley Schutzhund Club Cathy Clark/John Letcher/David Martin X X
12 Working Dogs of Central Illinois Bill Bimrose X X
11 MID-EASTERN REGION
1 Cedar Hill Working Dog Club Jeff Lund X X
2 Cumberland Valley Schutzhund & Police Club Debbie Roetemeyer X
3 Falconhurst Police Canine Corps Nancy Brigham/Dan Brigham X X
4 Harpeth River Schutzhund Group Dean Calderon/Mark Soccoccio/Karla Calderon
5 Metro-Detroit Schutzhund Club John Bochenek X X
6 Mid-Ohio Schutzhund Jim Alloway/Tom Gillies X X
7 Northern Indiana Schutzhund Club Thomas Quaka/Veronica Hoff/Cynthia Russsell X X
8 O.G. Buckeye Schutzhund Club Marcus Hampton/Dominic Scarberry X
9 O.G. Indianapolis Schutzhund und Polizei Mike Diehl/Carolyn Daniel/Jeff Lawless X
10 South Michigan Schutzhund & Police Club Lisa Clark/Sean Murphy/Donna Trouten X X
11 3 Rivers Working Dog Association Ron Byers/Ken Hilty/Ron Stokes X
7 NEW ENGLAND REGION
1 Baystate Police and Schutzhund Club Pia Blackwell
2 Empire Working Dog Club Debra Zappia/Patricia Bonino/Jody Potter X X
3 O.G. Boston Schutzhund Club Karen MacIntyre/Chris Banke/John Horan X
4 Ocean State Schutzhund Club Ron Fox X X
5 Outkast Schutzhund Club Claudia Romard X X
6 Quinebaug Schutzhund Club Don Yelle/Ivana Karlsen X X
7 Southern New Hampshire Working Dog Club Elizabeth Lindblom/Dee Clark X X
7 NORTH CENTRAL REGION
1 Hauptstadt Schutzhund Verein Shannon Robertson X X
2 Indian Creek Schutzhund Club Denise Piccicci/Chris Hruby/Jennifer Acevedo X X
3 Northern Illinois Schutzhund Club Chris
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