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Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 12 June 2010 - 15:06

Cheryl, there is a forum specifically for dogs with epi. Are you a member there? It has excellent information, and the members are very knowledgeable and supportive. If you can't find it, let me know, and I'll get you the URL. I just don't have it at my fingertips right now!

As for the heart rate, the most important thing is the RYHTHM. If a dog has a regular heartbeat at 60 bpm, there is probably nothing to worry about. However, an irregular rhythm can cause blood clots and sudden death.

by gsdlvr2 on 12 June 2010 - 16:06

 The OP stated the only thing "abnormal" was the rate, not the rhythm. To expand on what Sunsilver mentioned. Most irregular rhythms Do Not cause blood clots but one is know for that (a-fib). Additionally there are many irregular rhythms that Do Not cause sudden death, one does often (V-tach). V-fib kills too, there are some other ones too but it's not relevant to this thread or forum. 

Sunsilver, I sent you a PM

by LMH on 12 June 2010 - 17:06

Cheryl,

A few months ago I took in a 17 yr old, feral, warehouse cat that was losing her home and being scheduled for a one-way trip to the vet.  She did go to the vet....but with me when I rescued her.  One of the products purchased that day was Aller G-3.  Her coat was awful.  Wasn't ringworm, which (of course) was my first concern.  Even though I came home with every product probably ever made....from shampoo to revolution......I decided to take it slow.  She's very old....very feral....making it extremely traumatizing for the poor thing and me.  I was terrified of a stroke or overloading her system.

She had comfort and good food for the first time in her miserable life. (Heard she was spray painted as a kitten and avoided all humans thereafter.) Anyway....Things were progressing smoothly.  She was eating, drinking, and alleviating herself with no problems.  Even had 2 baths. (don't ask).  After 2 months, decided to give her the Aller G-3 to combat all those patchy, fur spots.  I swear...within a week her coat was fuller.  But.....there was a problem.  She started drinking and urinating an abnormal amount of water.  I figured..great, just what she and I need....diabetes. I was going to have her tested, but thought about the coincidence in timing with addition of Aller G-3.  Stopped the Aller G-3 and immediately the excessive water intake subsided.  A week later, she was still fine, but I was worried about the possibility of diabetes.  I gave her the Aller G-3 again to double test my theory.  Once again, she wanted more and more water.  Stopped the Aller G-3, and no problem since.

Aller G-3 is fish oil, Cheryl.  Just for the heck of it, don't give Molly the fish oil capsule for a couple of days and see what happens. 

 

 


by LynOD on 12 June 2010 - 21:06

I used solid gold Hunden Flocken with Ceira when she was first diagnosed. She did ok on it but not as good as when I fed her all raw.  I would not use any of the vet prescribed low residue foods.  THEY ARE GARBAGE!!!!  Ceira was raised on raw then when she got sick my vet talked me into trying one othe low residue kibbles, not what any dog should be eating.  She did best when I went to all raw no kibble.  She gets a ground chicken and bone mix it only costs .85lb so it is very reasonable.  I order from Peter Beukers at www.topqualitydogfood.com.  He comes to NJ and Pa once a month to deliver for free.  I have used him for years and he is reliable and his food is always fresh and reasonably priced.  You may want to try it, if she doesn't respond soon.  He has green tripe too which I also give to Ceira on a regular basis. Tylan for 30 days regardless of what your vet says for the SIBO. Also cranbury vitamin is good for urinary issues.

Renofan2

by Renofan2 on 13 June 2010 - 02:06

Thank you for the update on fish oil.  I will stop giving it to her and see if the excess drinking slows down.

I checked out the link for the raw diet.  I am also in PA.   I am not opposed to feeding raw, but tried chicken backs before and had trouble with my older dog who would swallow them whole and then throw them up whole a few hours later.  I could try just feeding Molly raw and see how it goes.  I will contact top quality dog food because delivery would be perfect for me due to my crazy work schedule.

I will keep  her on the tylan for 30 days.  It seems to be helping but still glad I have an appt at the specialist on Monday. Will be nice to have everything checked out to make sure.  Also added in cranberry bills today.

I appreciate all the advice and will let you know what the specialist has to say.

Cheryl

by LynOD on 13 June 2010 - 18:06

Everything Ceira is feed is ground. I do give her recreational bones and she does fien with them as long as she gets them around meal time so the enzymes are in her system.  Peter doesn't deliverr to houses he delivers to several places in Pa you have to meet him to pick up.  One of them is Plymouth Meeting Mall, another pick up is in Quaker town.  Good luck with the new vet, please keep me posted.

Lyn

by LynOD on 14 June 2010 - 13:06

 Cheryl,

One thing I forgot to mention is that when my girl had trouble keeping weight on I also added Prozyme to her food witht he other enzymes.  It really helped her keep the weight on.  It works in conjunction with the other enzymes great stuff!!! I order online at Kv vet.

Lyn

Renofan2

by Renofan2 on 29 June 2010 - 01:06

Update on Molly.  The 3 x per day feedings of 2.5 cups each Royal Canine LF with viokase and Tylan seems to be working.  Stools normal for over a week and after 2 weeks she has gained 9 lbs.  She is 58 lbs vs 48 lbs two weeks ago today.  I also stopped giving her fish oil.  She is no longer having accidents in her kennel when I am at work and has alot more energy.  She is due back at the specialist in 2 more weeks and if her heart rate does not return to normal range, will make an appt with their cardiologist.  Her body condition was rated as extremely poor, so I am very happy with the results.  I am wondering if the low heart rate could be associated with her poor body condition and am hoping with her gaining weight, that will improve as well.

Thank you for all the good advise.

Cheryl





 


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