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Re the original question.

Step number 1.
Spend a lot less time on forums, and train / produce some adult dogs which can be robustly tested. 

Step number 2,
Rather than spending thousands of dollars on the price of a pup, FOCUS on investing many hundreds of hours on the pups environmental conditioning / general confidence building. (long before man work training, if you neglect the first you are most likely training bluff)

Step number 3.
The breeding / purchase of a pup is merely the very first step in a very long and winding road, which is easily wrecked by those who do not have half as much talent, as perhaps the pup potentially has.

Step number 4.
Allow serious prospective purchasers to SERIOUSLY test your adult dogs.
(if you think that merely constitutes a bite on a sleeve or suit, that's probably why your pups aint flying out the door)

Step number 5.
Re reference to the last poster:
CRAP owners have an infinite talent in taking a blank sheet (pup) and transforming that blank canvas into - crap.

When such a young life form is discarded as CRAP, tradesman blaming his tools springs to mind.

I am speaking as a very small training kennel, who ALWAYS has a waiting list for pups, and whose owners are predominantly looking for a pup they can nurture into a specific working role. ( 7/10 this will involve them coming back for bespoke training, following detailed envirnomental/conditioning advice).

Step number 6.

Breeder - be selective and strong in who you sell a pup to, the well being off the pup, must always transcend any other factor - if in doubt blow the sale out. 

www.darkvakia.com

Regards
Gee


 

@ Gigante , and Prager (Hans)
Dare think out of the box and you will be shot down in flames, by those who do not know which end the food goes in, then miraculously comes out, - keep up the good work.

Those who prefer to post pics of there dogs poncing around in wet lands as substitute to working ability - what a sorry excuse.

Any one who thinks IPO tracking and so called protection is THE standard - is a half wit.

Both  those titles are MASSIVELY misleading, and are a minimalistic minimuim, re actual physical basic use fullness.   

For sure there are dogs who CAN perform on the field and excel on the street. (Norbo Ben Ju 6 times WUSV, day job Border Patrol, to name but one)

Please feel free to PM me re testing your stock, re ACTUAL usefull ness, I will reciprocate.

Regards
Gee @      www.darkvakia.com






 

Hexe - bull shit.

1, Would doubt you will find many dogs on Craigs list in the US or any were else with a working / service pedigree such as Darkvakia Bertha. (but prove me wrong, post some links?)

Darkvakia Bertha's mum -  http://www.darkvakia.com

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=694303-qashqai-stary-skaut

And whilst on the subject of "Free to good home"  any one of my TRAINED adult dogs would go for infinitely more than what you guys pay for so called trained PPD's every day of the week lol.

2, I don't do show lines - so can't comment on that.

3, No matter what the pedigree, breeders who train there working dogs and are quite happy / transparent in demonstrating real protection qualities to potential buyers, will always sell there pups more quickly than an importer of a working line dog or indeed a breeder of a working line dog who thinks that those lines / pedigree guarantees them working success - it doesn't.

And finally Hexe, I am talking  as a breeder / trainer,  who ALWAYS sells his litters very quickly, typically pre birth or a week or so old. Indeed there is an advert marked SOLD, In the free UK classifieds, on this very forum, which will back that up, two hours after posting, and the litter under one week old - sold!!

Not quite sure what your position is, do you just do FORUMS, or do you breed and TRAIN your own stock?  (in the unlikely event you do train, it would be good to see some footage of your dogs working? (preferably before they end up on "Craigs List - free to good home")

Gee
 

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/community.search?f=&s=Www.darkvakia

And yet you won't be listed as a kennel on this site. Yep, transparent as mud.

@bw
You make some valid points.

Where you fall down is - what is your kennel name?

There is a MASSIVE difference between talking and walking.

A titled dog can quite easily be NOT fit for purpose, when it comes to CREDIBLE tracking and protection.

My kennel is - www.darkvakia.com

What is yours?

R
Gee