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by Matt478 on 30 April 2007 - 17:04
I read somewhere that Flipp Von Arlett died? Is this true? I have a son of his that is only 14 months old, so I am a bit concerned that he died at such a young age. Does anyone have any information as to how he died?
Thanks.
by Drakegsd on 30 April 2007 - 17:04
According to what was posted on this board along with a couple others when this sad event took place, he died of bloat :(
by Seifenblase on 30 April 2007 - 17:04
look at www.arlett.de!!!
by GSDandrea on 30 April 2007 - 18:04
Yeah I guess he is. If you go to the link Seifenblase posted and go to "Im Memoriam" he is listed there.

by Brittany on 03 May 2007 - 16:05
Yes Flipp died from bloat, according to what I'm reading.
Unfortunately when you breed and start producing these deep chested dogs.. the dog is at a grater risk of having bloat.

by Silbersee on 03 May 2007 - 18:05
Flipp was not deep-chested.

by Brittany on 03 May 2007 - 18:05
Silbersee, if hes not deep chested then why did he died from bloat? Can you care to explain?
http://www.canismajor.com/dog/bloat.html
by AnnikasMom on 03 May 2007 - 19:05
Forgive my ignorance here, but aren't all GSDs deep chested, just some more than others...
Darlene
Vom Herrenhaus German Shepherds

by Birdy on 03 May 2007 - 20:05
Any breed of dog can die from bloat but the gut twisting is more prevelant in deep chested dogs.
Birdy...

by Silbersee on 03 May 2007 - 20:05
Brittany,
I don't know if I can care, but I will, lol!!!!!
The breed standard (FCI, SV) calls for an ideal ratio of 45 to 48 % of chest depth to heigth of withers. Now, it is a matter of opinion and I have not researched other breeds and their ratio, but I do not call that deep chested. However, I want to bet that a lot of AKC dogs will not fit into that description, as they are a lot more deep-chested than their German bred counterparts.
Often, when you hear an SV-judge's critique and he uses that term "tiefgestellt" he means that this particular dog exceeds the ratio and is more in a 50% to 50% bracket. While it is normal for an older dog and/or a female after one or more litters to deepen out, it would be wise to breed such a dog to a breeding partner with longer legs ("lange Laufknochen").
Getting back to your statement, that bloat occurs because our dogs are so deep-chested:
I do not believe in that, neither is it proven to be the case. Yes, there is a higher incidence of bloat in deep-chested breeds, but that is certainly only one factor of many. If you go purely by the ratio of chest-depth vs. heigth of withers, all smaller breeds would be in a lot of trouble.
Chris
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