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by txarkoeta on 20 August 2021 - 03:08

Hello Out of curiosity. Which do you think has been the best working German Shepherd breeder in the last decade? It can be male or female.

delta von Avalik

by delta von Avalik on 20 August 2021 - 08:08

My favorite breeder of all time (who's also still alive) is Jan Sudimak in Slovakia, his kennel is Eqidius. He's extremely knowledgable and has had many successful dogs in breeding and sport work. I've met many dogs from his kennel and have been very impressed by them. Although he's been breeding for many decades so I'm not entirely sure if that's what you were looking for.

Kennel Ja Na Ka (breeder Jan Chudy) seems to be a somewhat newer kennel and has successful progeny in IGP.

by txarkoeta on 20 August 2021 - 08:08

Eisernen Kreuz in my opinion.
I think Eqidius used to do better


by charlie319 on 20 August 2021 - 10:08

In Showlines - Hühnegrab
His record speaks for itself. The number of V and VA dogs they produce.

Bad-Boll (RIP), Holtkamper-Hof and D'Ulmental would be in the mix.

Overall, I doubt anyone can touch Karl Füller (RIP) of von,Kirschental. 8 sheepherding world championships and one World Champion (Eiko) is a high bar. Also, those who have owned Kirschental dogs often want to buy another Kirschental dog.

But the deffinition of "best" is elusive. Is it in the numbers of good competition dogs that place well, or the # of champions? Without hard data to back up one's choice, it becomes an argument over taste. Quality = consistency in the product.

by Klossbruhe on 20 August 2021 - 12:08

The OP said working GSD breeder. Not clear if working lines was meant or just an active breeder. Obviously, if working line was meant, then refererence to showline breeders not relevant.

With regard to showlines, some breeders had more success with females, some with males, a few with both.


by Hundmutter on 20 August 2021 - 14:08

Kloss, don't forget the US tends to see much more of a split between Working and Show kennels than the Germans do !   :-)

by txarkoeta on 20 August 2021 - 16:08

Working lines please

by Klossbruhe on 20 August 2021 - 18:08

With all due respect, Hundmutter, not sure you have been to Germany very much in the last 20 years. There is a big split there as well. Helmut Raiser formed his own club the RSV for working lines dogs. And when Peter Messler wanted to put Timo vom Barenkasten up for Sieger (he was VA2 at the time) Hans Peter Rieker threatened to bring Rikkor back for a third time to stop Messler who backed off because Rieker was backed not only by the SV vorstand but also by most of the rank and file. And Timo wasn't even a working lines dog although a lot of people mistakenly thought he was....He was only a sable

Reinhard Meyer, to his credit, created a special category for the dogs who did the best bitework at the Sieger Show and working lines dogs were honored but this was just really a sop to the working lines crowd. No, the split is very real there as well.

by ValK on 20 August 2021 - 21:08

somewhat vague question. different people have different approach and requirement to their future dog and different type of communication with breeder of those dog.
the one, who did produce a podium dog absolutely doesn't mean all the dogs from his/her kennel are equally good and that even best one from podium can be taken direct to field or street for real life work.
someone mentioned split onto show and work. i guess former work type of GSDs also did split onto major segment of the market of pet GSDs suitable for physical active lifestyle including sport activities and small part of market which still demanding the GS dogs for practical real life utilization.
in my view the best breeder are the breeder with whom i have common view on the breed and its purpose and to whom i can trust.

by Klossbruhe on 20 August 2021 - 22:08

Well said, Valk. As my mentor and my breeder used to say, breeding is an art not a precise science. One needs Fingerspitzengefuhl and luck.

Every good breeder, whether working lines or show, should have as his or her goal the improvement of the breed. First and foremost at the very least as to health and temperament. Then and only then as to genotype and phenotype.

Every GSD I ever got from my breeder lived to 13 or more and was Klar im Kopf. Good around people, protective of our family and house and able to obtain a SchH3. Schweizermesser am vier Beine, a dog which could do many things, not just one thing extremely well.


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