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by Rik on 31 October 2020 - 21:10

President Trump has overseen an overhaul of our most important trading relationships, including rewriting NAFTA and successfully making new demands of China, to better serve American workers.
-By January of this year, he had signed 16 pieces of legislation that lifted regulations on numerous sectors of the economy; his business-friendly policies encouraged accelerated investment in domestic industries, created seven million new jobs and nearly half a million new manufacturing jobs.
-Thanks to Trump’s massive tax cuts, 80% of Americans saw their taxes go down. Trump’s policies pushed incomes higher by 6.8% last year, as unemployment hit record lows for every group of Americans.
-He began the hard work of stemming the flow of people entering the country illegally, working with our neighbors to the south, and – yes – he began to build the wall.
-He brought home hostages from Iran, Turkey, Syria, Venezuela and other countries, some of whom had long been held captive.
-He signed criminal justice reform.
-He secured a breakthrough peace agreement in the Middle East between the UAE and Israel....

by joanro on 01 November 2020 - 02:11

And that's the short list!
Best president ever.
Making America great again!


by Mindhunt on 01 November 2020 - 18:11

Don't forget the taxes to the bottom 80% start to increase in 2021 and will continue to do so for many years. So this will not be Biden's fault if he wins. Remember the wonderful tax plan that Trump got passed initially lowered taxes, gave the top richest huge tax breaks, and will increase taxes considerably.

Don't forget the separation of children from their families at the border, even from parents who entered through legal ports of entry. Not Obama's fault.


by joanro on 01 November 2020 - 21:11

Mindhunt, do you enjoy losing?


by Rik on 02 November 2020 - 08:11

what's so unfair is that if a parent commits a crime in any country in the world, they are separated from their children.

did you know there are actually places where they put criminal children, separated from their parents in every country. used to be called reform school in the U.S.

and what, the parents can't find their kids, start with where you last saw them. you make it sound like the U.S. is playing hide and seek with them. the U.S. doesn't want them and I'll guarantee one phone call and they will meet you with them on the way out the door.

the parents don't want the kids. I doubt many people are so low IQ they can't find a government building and ask "Hey, have you seen my kid"


by Hundmutter on 08 November 2020 - 04:11

Now that we know Mindhunt - and Biden - are NOT 'losers', I can safely add to the caveats that should be taken into consideration when reading that much-reproduced list of supposed Trump triumphs cited by Rik to start this thred, without being told I am 'trying to influence the result' with no right to do so (as a non-American).

ALL political and practical governmental policies, everywhere, take some time to implement and some time to show results. [ For example: Even the most fanatical changes; the Nazis did not get every opponent or Jew into their camps in one go, in a few hours - it took them months and months.]

Bearing that fact in mind, readers really should carefully consider whether the claims in the OP above are correct. Or illusiary.

Trade Agreements. We don't actually know yet. Whether the new Trump influenced agreements with China will work out, in practice, remains to be seen. Give it time. Ditto relations with North Korea.
Incidentally, Trump attempts at influencing US / UK trade (in wake of Brexit) may look good to our Tory government, but that Tory government is less and less convincing and popular because of Covid handling confusions, and there is MASSIVE public opposition to both US meat imports and US commercial interference in our National Health Service.

De-regulation of industry. Who do you think benefits most, long term, from that 'business-friendly' sort of peeling back of concessions won by health & safety campaigners etc ? The workforce ? Guess again.

As for the whole job creation / lowering of unemployment levels group of 'gains': as I pointed out, policies take time to become actualities. Trump's own Department of Labor figures showed that during Obama's last 3 years in office, 1.5 m MORE jobs were created than the number of jobs added in Trump's first 3 years.

Job numbers are at best a complicated thing to figure accurately, and are influenced by e.g. seasonal employment; but it seems clear enough that some increases in business and service developments mean that the new jobs were put in train BEFORE Trump took Office (rather than the credit).

And on UNemployment, please note that yes, by the end of 2019 there were 'record lows' across 'every group' (see above paragraph !) - but in April 2020 US unemployment stood at 14.7 % (worst since the Great Depression) ... and you can only blame the Covid pandemic for so much of that figure, since we are talking about the START of the year, not after such affects on businesses etc in the wake of Presidential denial that the virus even existed.



by crazystyna on 08 November 2020 - 20:11

Hundmutter, not one state in US have officially announced a winner yet. The media projected Biden as a winner. The election is far from being done. And considering the recounts requested, it will be a while till official results are announced.


by Hundmutter on 09 November 2020 - 02:11

Ah but it isn't just the media now, is it ? It is mathemeticians and sephologists and academics and statistical scientists, no longer speculation by reporters and frontmen and pundits-without-portfolio. That was why I waited until now.

You are surely not kidding yourself the result is going to be any different when every vote has bean counted (see what I did there ?).

That is, if Trump supporters can even make their minds up / get agreement on whether to "count every vote" or "stop the vote". Jeez, what a bunch.


by crazystyna on 09 November 2020 - 22:11

Ok Hundmutter...

mrdarcy (admin)

by mrdarcy on 10 November 2020 - 04:11

Right, sorry, but I just have to ask...can someone tell us ignorant foriegners who is president of America for the next 4 years? As all these threads saying one thing and then another is so confusing, please don't start arguing guys just a simple question needing a simple answer, thanks.


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