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by Vazquezpits on 14 August 2020 - 07:08

I am getting a male puppy off of these parents: Adolph Bubba and Abigal Shadow and want to know what lineage they are . Can some one tell me if theses dogs are Czech, WGWL,America,DDR,? I am still learning how to read the pedigree .
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by apple on 14 August 2020 - 07:08

The bitches pedigree goes back to some Czech dogs but looks pretty much BYB.

Fantom76 (admin)

by Fantom76 on 14 August 2020 - 09:08

Sire is even more so BYB. The dam goes into some better lines on her dams side, but can see no rhyme or reason to the breeding to say that either dog is leaning to some line of breeding over another. This is not to say, that they are not good pet dogs, just that they can not be classified as Czech, WGWL, America, DDR,. If I had to choose one of the 4 types that you listed, I would say American.

Q Man

by Q Man on 14 August 2020 - 10:08

I had to laugh as soon as I read the names of the dogs...But...Names are Names...

Then looked up the dogs and they are both a mis-mash of everything...or so it seems...
I agree with others and it seems as though there were no thinking into the breeding...It seems that they had two dogs and just put them together...

I don't like telling others what to get and what not to get...But I'd advise you to re-think about getting a puppy from this breeding...

I always like to ask first...What is your goal in getting a puppy from this breeding...What are you wanting the puppy/dog for?



by Koots on 14 August 2020 - 10:08

I always like to ask first...What is your goal in getting a puppy from this breeding...What are you wanting the puppy/dog for?

When I look at any breeding pair, I consider the breeding 'program' and if it seems the breeder has a plan or goal, or if it's just a matter of having female dog mated to male dog.    I say to myself   "what appears to be the goal' of this breeding?"  and if the answer is not apparent or there seems to be no clear objective or plan, or it's a mish-mash, then I would pass.

by Nans gsd on 14 August 2020 - 13:08

More like someone wanted the female to have the experience of having puppies; really I would also reconsider as this is a breeding I would walk away from..... Not health tested dogs in the background; really health checks are very important in this breed ( as well as other breeds ) lots of not so healthy dogs used for breeding with not so good outcome.


There are very few known dogs in this pedigree.

by Diamondgal on 14 August 2020 - 19:08

I had to go back more than five generations to even find any titled dog. But the real problem I have from this pairing - both dogs were born last year. They shouldn't have been bred yet.

Western Rider

by Western Rider on 14 August 2020 - 20:08

Does a dog really have to go back to a "known" dog to be a good dog? I agree there should be some rhyme or reason for the breeding. Looking to achieve something other than puppies to sell.

Yes they need health testing whether they are Shown or Trialed. 

Even BYB's can produce a quality product when thought goes into what they are doing.

by Diamondgal on 14 August 2020 - 20:08

Right. Very much like when my former friend got her Rottweiler pup back in the early 90s, the people she bought him from didn't realize Pio was a related bloodline.


by Rik on 14 August 2020 - 20:08

WR, do you mean a quality product for the pet market?
and I'm just going to say right up front that people breeding dogs as a product is why the shelters are full of them.


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