probability of ears not standing or monorchid - Page 1

what r the chances that a working line (east germany/ddr) dogs ears do not stand? what are the chances of gsd's being monorchid? just curious as these are not covered by the breeder.

Most breeders will guarantee the ears and testicles of full registration puppies.I would check to make sure they are not covered. Ask your breeder if this is a repeat litter and what was produced previously.Certain bloodlines do produce floppy ears and retained testicles.

I don't like to say things this way, as my delivery is no doubt polarizing to some people. A section of a puppy agreement dedicated to the guaranteed presence of testicles and stand of ears tends to be more of a "North American" style agreement and not a "European" style agreement. If one breeds enough litters from high-quality stock, there is still a chance that this can happen. Life is not always fair. But, take these things into consideration BEFORE the purchase of a puppy, and get them in writing. Ears can be damaged while a puppy is young and stand poorly or never stand, but testicles are either there, or not there. Most male puppies have both by six (6) weeks of age and should definitely have both by eight (8) weeks of age. That is why a quick visit to a veterinarion (usually specified in North American agreements) is crucial to upholding the agreement between the breeder and the purchaser. And I repeat what B. Andersen wrote and say that some lines (or lines in combination) do produce faulty ears and testicle problems more than others. No one does this on purpose I am sure. And there are rare occassions where a male puppy has both testicles, and they are suddenly pulled into the abdomen and never appear again in the scrotum. Will the agreement cover something like this? Most breeders do warrant the hips to pass within a certain time frame. Just how far should the agreement go? Should it also address elbows, fertility, coat length, hang of tail, (possible) genetic heath issues such as pancreatic insuffiency, etc.? That is something that must be negotiated with the breeder. And the final part of this: what will the breeder do if the puppy does not develop in accord with the written agreement. Replace the puppy and allow you to keep the original? Require you to return the puppy for a repalcement? Or just offer your money back? These are all things that must be carefully examined if one wants to purchase a puppy that has a sort of warranty or guarantee. With all good intentions of both parties, remember that life is not always fair to any of us-including the puppy. Bob-O

Get your guarantee in writing. If your breeder doesn't include ears and testicles in his guarantee, write a new guarantee and make him/her sign it. It's hard to predict when these defects might crop up. Trust me - I had to learn the hard way! I've had both problems happen to me out of two puppies I got less than a year apart. One male pup out of German/Dutch lines had soft ears, and I only got a partial refund when I returned it. The other pup was out of DDR/Czech bloodlines and had both testicles at 8 wks but one never dropped into the sack. Fortunately I had learned my lesson and I wrote my own guarantee and had the breeder sign it, and testicles were included. I had no problems getting a replacement pup and I sold the other dog to an active pet home. Yvette

It is becomeing more or a problem as many breeders and brokers are tapping up the ears and the dogs are still sold as breeding quality, thus passing this trait on. I see it alot and I have a dog with floppy ears as I didn't ask for a guarantee from the breeder or rather the importer. Good luck.