Price for 2.5 year old V rated male VA parents - Page 1

Hi guys, just need some advice, looking into new showline male and need suggestions regarding price for a 2.5 year old from VA parents. Dog has won some local shows although no Sch training yet. Great conformity/anatomy/colour though. Dog is in Europe. ??? Euros.

2.5 and no training? Pet dog, as most show dogs in Germany are at least sch1 and many sch3 before 3 years old. He cannot be V rated if he is not titled in schutzhund either. So he is either titled and V rated or not titled and at most won youth classes. Major big gap in price between a V1 dog and an untitled male JRThomas

Yes I thought that was the case as you need to go through the Korung and you need to have minimum Sch 1 dont you to have V rating? Price then? Alex

yes you do need a title to get a koer. most dogs get titled in working class before standing for koer. Price range will still be large - depends on bloodlines and if dog is really competitve for higher level. Suggest you hook up with reputable broker to help you. it is worth the extra bucks to not get ripped off IMO

3-4k euros?.

if dog was year old ok - but not going on 3 with no titles - just me cynical - figure dog has problem if not titled - if you want a pet you can get young adult in states and fly to see it first for that money - $4000-5200

What ever a seller puts as a price is appropriate. If a buyer does not agree with the price the buyer always has the option not to purchase. There is no blue book for GSDs. Even with a blue book, the same make and model car will have lots of different price tags on it in the same town, even on the same lot. A V rating is not possible for an untitled dog in Germany. No KKL necessary for a V in Germany though, just a working title. The dog may have gotten a V rating at an FCI show in a country other than Germany perhaps. Or got the rating at a non-recognized club. You should clarify that. If a title is not important, we have a very nice 2 1/2 year old show male available, HD/ED-normal, ZW77, been shown a few times, 1xVV2, 2xSG2. Super disposition, very handsome dog. Not titled, and priced well. Contact me if interested. Plus a couple of other nice young males that we can title for you.

klekoni i would contact D.H ,would be your best bet,something is not right ,if dogs is not titled just me myself no way worth 2000 or 3000 euro and no puppy is worth 1000 euro to much to chance health -temperment ect.....but that just me ....rick ....

$1500 +/- depending upon other qualities.

FWIW, bought a 3.5 highline with a kkl1 (2 year) schh1 and a V for $4500 not including shipping. Figured out after the fact that it must have been one of those 'midnight' trials. Also came from a country where BH was not required so had to start there when I got him. Not a big deal but was a surprise. (lots of surprises with imports) Also turned out he grew too much and was outside the breed standard – which is probably how he ended up on the US market. Also bought a 5y/o female, kkl1 for life, scch3 for $6500 who came from Germany already bred. Knowing what I know now I wouldn't just walk, but would RUN from this situation. There are a number of imports that come titled and all will come with issues you will need to repair/work around which means more $$$ with a trainer (and more time before you two are able to get your title) unless you are already an experienced schh handler, which I’m guessing isn’t the case. As a plus there is something to be said for having foundation work done. I'm raising my first sport puppy now and there is a lot you don't realize that is easily taken for granted when buying an adult who’s got a foundation. Starting in the ‘middle’ comes with baggage, but allows you to jump into the meat of things. Starting from scratch is nice because you do it your way, but you do it all and patience is a requirement – think baby steps… I was happy buying my adult when I did. I couldn't be home often enough back then to potty train a puppy - so an adult was the only way to go. For my first Schh dog I was very pleased, but I'll never do it again. He came with a problems with rush training and I now feel I can do a better job not having to work around someone else’s mistakes/shortcuts. Anyhow, back to your situation – I’m sure with the average price of a well bred highline pup around $2k that your looking at around $3500 or more (likely into the mid 4s) – so why pay the extra money for nothing but a shorter life span then a pup?!?! If he came with a working title you could do something with him, but at this point, with an adult you didn’t raise, you’re looking at a year or more just to just get to that point – the dog is then 5. A 5 y/o working male with only a schh1, regardless of lineage, is not going to be a dog ANYONE who knows what they’re doing would breed or breed to. For the money you’re buying smoke and mirrors. Either pay a few K more and get a younger, titled dog that you can actually do something with, or buy an adult pet here in the USA and get to see the dog before buying, and save the $500+ transportation. I’m not an expert but I’m guessing you’re being scammed if you pay more then $2k. Don’t forget that dogs can have best breeding in the world and most will still be duds. Breeding/lineage means very little until there is performance to back it up – otherwise you got nothing but warm fuzzy and bragging rights over your neighbors who prefer mutts. -Calvin