Question about ring sport dogs - Page 1

Just curious what kind of dog usuaLLY does good in ring sport? i have seen videos and read about the diff between it and sch.  I just wonder a dog that excels in sch would it also be good in ring sport usually?


what drives does a ring sport dog usually need that an sch dog might not have or vice versa?

Ask "malndobe"

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Nice explanation that goes into detail about the dogs themselves.

regards

Ronin

Depends on the dog !! the dogs are chalenged .. a Brevet , an  Introductory level almost equivalent to Title B in Sch but protection work off lead/off collar, stcik hits and gunfire  in French Ring or intro in Belgium IMO surpasses a Sch 3 !!prey and defense exhibite excecuted.  the dog needs to deal with stress . IMO unlike Sch NOW .. my biggest pet peeve sort to speak / many of my friends have vewry hard aggressive dogs BUT ... the big BUT ^^^ you only need a dog ... that can do the work [ and have a good liesurelyfun  time] .. you do not need a killer dog in order  to have fun . several of  my showlines GSDs [ past years of show lines that is ] lived in my home , went downtown into ice creram shops , walked through crowds -- they preformed Ring .. you need a dog ... simply ... that can do the work ..

is a dog that does ring required to have higher defense than a dog that does sch since more proection work is being asked of them? (full suit bite work crazy scary demonic decoy)

Strong nerves, low threshold dogs with good prey drive is what you need IMO.

I wonder how many Sch. 3 dogs wouldn't be able to obtain a Brevet just based on the gunfire test alone? Ring at the basic level requires a stronger dog than Sch.

Really Alphapup?  Your show line dogs "preformed" Ring?  At what level?  I ask because I know one of the reasons the gunfire was taken out of the BH was to help the show dogs.  The Brevet gunfire is "performed" during the Defense of Handler exercise to see if the dog can handle gunfire with the handler up close.  FRI-III gunfire is at a distance but still during bite exercises.  How did your show line dogs do with the jumps?  I'm guessing that 3 meter minimum broad jump was pretty tough? 

 There are some pretty big differences in how the sport is trained, and that is what makes it difficult to say wht dog could or could not do one or the other. I have seen some nice Sch mals blow up at ring one. They got really high scores in brevet, but dropped exercises like the defense of handler at ring one.

There was nothing at all wrong with the dog.

I think that it takes a different kind of GSD to do ring. There are pretty big differences in how the sports are trained, and of course after a while, the peg is no longer square, it is round. I also think that a dog that has done ring is going to find a few things harder about Sch, but I think that is all in the trainer, and his club.

I have a FR3 GSD that I bought last summer. I like him a lot. I will breed him here when I get a predominantly FR line female. I want to see what he produces, and how much of him is him, and how much is training. From what I am seeing, it is who he is. 

A SchH. dog has to track!