Help skin condition !!! - Page 1

My puppy has been suffering from a skin condition that a lot of vets diagnosed it differently one said it's a bacterial infection other made a skin scrap test and said it was dermatophyte my pup is going to be 5 months next week , I tried dr j medical shampoo , anti fungal spray , betadine (which made it more redish and worst) I tried topical and oral antibiotic which made it slightly better a course of weeks , please help the only thing I didn't try is malaseb or curaseb shampoo

He is biting and scratching probably every 5 minutes and got dandruff as well


Pictures

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Dog overall look

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Area of infection ( all over his body) especially armpit , side belly and belly , chest

I would think you have to rely on what the scrape test revealed. Bear in mind, parasites always attack weak animals. However, inflammation around the armpits is often a food allergy symptom. I always try to go with a treatment that has the least amount of toxicity. Topical things like raw coconut oil or pure aloe vera gel can be very helpful. You can also brew a tea of calendula flowers & either spray it on or apply as a compress. If you're not already doing so, get your pup on a high quality probiotic supplement. An imbalance of gut bacteria can cause all kinds of seemingly unrelated ailments. Make sure the foods & treats you give do not contain sugar or corn syrup (sometimes shown as maltodextrin), as these things support yeast in the gut.

Good luck!

Agree with CCCK ^^, if one of these (how many ?) vets took a skin scraping, I'd be inclined to believe it over any vets who play guessing games and don't actually test.

One thing you could try to do is give whatever treatment(s) a good "go" and not give up too quickly, give it time to show improvement. Often treatments (particularly herbal ones) get a bit worse before they start to get better; if the owner gets scared off before the treatment has a proper chance to work, they might miss out on a cure just by not being patient enough.

Incidentally FWIW I have always found Malaseb useful and effective for many minor skin problems, and don't really understand any reluctance to use it.

Hund , I am just asking if any of you faced a similar thing and knows something that actually works , and about the shampoo it will be pretty expensive if I order it from abroad it will cost me $45 which is alot (really) when converted to my currency and I don't know if it will work or no , even if I afford it once I can't afford it to be my regular shampoo , I started to look for cheap alternative and I found synergylabs medicated shampoot gotto some good reviews but I am not sure I am really lost

OP, It is difficult when we only have pictures to say exactly what something is, and skin problems / dermatitis are a notoriously difficult area for even the trained vet to diagnose. Hence my comment about guesswork. If you have no definite diagnosis, how can any of us tell you: "This WILL definitely work on your puppy" ???

It seems to me with a pup only 5 months old, he hasn't had long in which to be examined by "a lot" of vets ?  Or to have experienced any one consistent treatment for long, to see if the skin improves.  (Everyone wants results "yesterday" !)

 

Sorry to hear that some methods are not available to you on cost grounds.  A bottle or two of shampoo isn't necessarily going to become a lifetime treatment commitment, even if it does the trick.  Again, with no definite diagnosis (or even much info from you about the length of time the pup's skin has already been a problem, the conditions he was obtained from when you got him, etc) it isn't easy to suggest whether this is something that is likely to become a permanent condition, or not.  FWIW the photographic evidence doesn't look too awful to me, as re the actual skin damage, but you need to consider whether this might be a stand-alone skin infection, or parasite-induced, OR a symptom of something more systematic, again not something that can be done by Internet.  And obviously u want to get the puppy out of discomfort quickly.  Often with medicines, herbal or pharmacutical, you do just have to be prepared to give one thing a long enough trial - 3 weeks or so consistent application is not that long in the life of a pup only 25+ weeks on the planet.

 

One of the preparations for owning a dog IMO is working out in advance whether you will be able to afford most things that can come up while keeping that dog - maybe if people have no spare cash, they shouldn't keep a dog until their economic situation improves ?  I have been there, I have been short of money, I have denied myself canine companionship because I could not afford it at that time (it isn't necessarily for ever).  Just something for all readers to consider.

Another thing occurred to me. If your pup is 5 months old, then he probably got a rabies vaccine about a month ago, and may very well be suffering a vaccine reaction. Although most vets will deny the possibility of this, it's quite common. I would urge you to do some research about how homeopathic remedies can help with this. A skin condition is the body's way of saying it's trying to get rid of something. Even herbs suppress symptoms, but homeopathic remedies uproot the problem with no side effects. They are also inexpensive, and there are websites you can use to determine the correct remedy. Here is just one article you might consider as a starting point. http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/homeopathic-treatment-vaccine-reactions/

Try hard to avoid the road of steroids & antibiotics. While they might yield fast results, they damage the gut bacteria (the immune system). Save these medications for life threatening situations. This is a difficult thing to do, as most vets won't advise you to use anything that's not FDA approved. I often say "Thank you for the diagnosis. I respectfully decline the prescription and will let you know if I can't get the situation under control with home remedies."

Good luck!

I am waiting a bit for the rabies vaccination , he only got 3 shots of Zoetis vanguard plus 5 L4 last shot was in 25/5/2017

Dermatophytosis for dogs is called ringworm. Which I do not see in any of the photos. Looks more like flea bites or an allergic reaction.

He got no fleas , just yellow spots that turns into hard crusts and dandruff with severe biting and scratching

Look up / Google "Canine Seborrheic Dermatitis" and compare the symptoms carefully. If this paints a picture of what your dog is suffering from, go back to what I said above - you have to be careful these problems are not connected to something else going on in the dog's body.

AND IF whatever remedy you choose to use does not show signs of stopping the condition when YOU HAVE GIVEN IT TIME, USING IT PROPERLY AS RECOMMENDED EVERY DAY FOR 3 WEEKS, then go back to ONE vet that you trust most, ask for further tests and skin scrapes, and for THEIR initial comments on the range of other conditions that can be involved; GET THE RESULTS VERBATIM, (and keep a note of them); and if Malaseb is recommended, SPEND THE MONEY. Only if that does not work, or other illnesses do seem to be involved and you don't feel your vet is explaining properly, come back to the internet / this forum for thoughts on "what next"; but TRY the proven veterinary way first, instead of trying to save money.

I don't know where you are writing from, and I realise there is much distrust of vet surgeons because of a few money-grabbing bad apples - but most people who do all the training it requires, do it from a general liking of animals and wish to see them made better.