Help with German color translation - Page 1

Hi all!

So, I have this color shown in the SV book as:

stahlbl

Can anyone shed some light on how that would be translated to English?

I'm a bit stumped, never seen this combo of abbreviations.

Thanks in advance!

There is a sattbr = rich brown, could it be this?

 

Maybe...stahlblech....?

I just have no idea:

Adelheid von der Schlucht - SZ85272 - born 2/12/1920 - color stahlbl (all lowercase)

Littermate listed with the same color

Parents were both Black/Tan

@QMan, stahlblech would translate to?

"Metallic; steel-coloured." (Some people refer to Blues like this !) Not sure how this colour stands with the SV ? [@Susie: wanna comment ?]

stahl - steel

bl - must mean blue? or blond, but that doesn't seem to go with the steel part.

If she was steel grey then they would have had stahlgr, I think. ?

Pretty sure it must mean steel blue (she was probably a dark grey, not a genetic blue).

Stahlblau is steel-blue. Stahlblech is a steel sheet, and is a piece of actual sheet metal, not a color.
Steel blue in GSDs is a blue that is often so dark it often looks nearly black.
They pop up from sables in working bloodlines in the form of blue sables and often get passed off as being faded black sables.
There have been a few from saddle backs too. If the mother and father both carry the genes needed they pass it on. Most of the time no one knows they carry the genes until the dog gets bred to another dog that carries it. Then a lovely litter of very colorful pups compared to their parents.

A few years a guy bred male and female saddle backs that were either red or tan with black saddle and masks. He got surprised with a few tans with blue saddles and masks along with the normal red and tans with black mask and saddles. He had them DNA tested thinking another dog breed had got his female, making the pups mutts, yet the pups were 100% purebred GSD. And then he tested the parents and found they both carried color dilutions. Not a happy guy sadly, as he wanted normal colors so the pups could be shown. Color genes are fun like that. My black female GSD Sasha has whites hidden farther back in her pedigree and even has a nice spot of it on her chest. I'm 100% certain that if I had her color tested she would carry silver or cream, also known as white.

Also here are more German color related word translations I found a while back:

abzeichen (a)= markings
behaarung= coat, hair
blau= blue,slate grey
braun= brown
braungelb= brown/tan
brustfleck= spot on chest
dunkel= dark
farbe (farbig)= color
gelb (g)= tan
gelbgrau (ggr)= tan/grey
gestreift= brindled
gewolkt (gew)= clouded, mixed colors
grau= grey/sable
raugelb (grg)= grey/tan
hell (helle)= light
kopfabz= head markings
maske= mask
sattel= saddle
schwarz (s)= black
stahlblau= steel/blue
weiss (w)= white

I had a blue male - he was solid blue with a white undercoat, when he was older he developed reddish tan on his legs. He was the only pup like that, there were 2 silver grey siblings that turned out to be blue sables. They looked grey, then blue, then developed dark sable markings, went through a greenish hue to the black, now they look like a brown with the sable markings. You would never know they were blue sables, but you can tell from their eyes, the blues do not have color in their retinas, so the eyes appear light colored. The blue male I kept just recently suddenly passed away at 10-1/2 (liver cancer).:( I still have his sister, she's a plain sable.

They came from an opps litter (my fault!) of a white male (Great Britain/Canada lines) and a black female (German/American lines). That was quite a mashing of genes.

I'll enter that German dog here in a sec - see if there is anything that pops out that would make her seem to be a steel blue. I'll post the link when I'm done... be right back.