Congratulations to Dante vom Hinterhaus - Page 1

Was in New England and saw Dante vom Hunterhaus got his Korung for life. Was surprised to see the breeder was omitted. Dante was bred by Dawn Verdeschi from a female co owned by Manny DeBenn. How could anyone take the breeders name off the papers of a dog? I know Dawn had some problems but she was the breeder or co breeder and should have been mentioned in the success of this dog. How can anyone remove a breeder's name?

Surprised? This person was involved in one of the worst cases of animal abuse with valuable Showline GSD's, ever discovered. And then there was the controversy where several of those seized dogs happened to disappear into unverified homes, intact of course— that also is something that is an unheard of practice by legitimate rescue organizations.

This all happened in 2014. I don't know what the final outcome was with the criminal case(s). Maybe not owning a dog was a condition? That would certainly make sense. And be a reason for not wanting your name listed as a breeder.

Breeder of record is "Breeder of record". She is entitled to be noted by the records. So next the second worst case of animal abuse Edison Devalos should he no longer be noted on his breedings. It was an outrageous incidn=ent that no one can explain and no one knows the truth except the ones involved but breeder of record should remain noted.

Wrong conclusion. Do you know Dawn well enough to ask her if she wants to be noted as a co-owner and breeder? That is a key piece of the puzzle to consider.

Don't know the benefit of dragging in someone else with crimes in kind does, except to make a personal note to myself, how both are dispicable as to how they exploit and treat GSD's.

Here is a case where the conduct for both sides is questionable/deplorable.

What I question is how the rescuers of the rescued dogs got papers, were able to transfer them to their names, that the rescued dogs were not spayed or neutered and the big one, How they got AKC to remove the name of a breeder.

 

that would be an interesting question to Frank and Kathy (AKC judges and friends). Questionable / deplorable and left unanswered HOW. Quilty does not finish this story. All parties should be ashamed. But going forward, ALL parties QUILTY.

IMO Western Rider has the right questions and approach to this case. As to any Körung papers or show catalogues or anything similar, they ought to list the breeder of the dog as it is information useful & important to anybody doing future pedigree research. I do not know of any way in which the breeder can state a preference for whether their name is included in documents, or not. I do not think one would be able, for instance, to insist that our Breed Council here should omit or remove breeders names from Survey Reports. In this particular case, surely it is better that this breeder's name is always attached to this dog, precisely so that anyone 'in the know' and interested can be aware of the circumstances, and ask those questions posed by WR ? Why should Dawn Verdeschi be ABLE to whitewash the circumstances by being allowed to remove her name, if indeed this omission was down to her at all ? Why should anyone else be able to ? Subsequent owners need to explain how they acquire and manage to show such dogs, if there is nothing dodgy involved by the time it gets to their ownership then there is no need for secrets.

@ Hexe :

Does anybody know what happened to DV at all?
I´ll never forget those pictures... https://www.flickr.com/photos/118132673@N07/show/

Otherwise, wasn´t M de Bem co-owner and co-breeder of this dog?
Doesn´t AKC have a registry where people are able to search for breeders and/or owners?

In case M de Bem was the co-owner of Dante, there was absolutely no reason to spay the dog ( his dog, no rescue ), and there was no reason to confiscate the papers ?!? ( all of this is plain heresay, but maybe the truth )

The dog seems to do well, way better than before...

What I want to say - Does anybody KNOW what really happened ?