Jihad or not - Page 1

Here we go again . I was watching CNN and then listen to Obama and I already see "See No Jighad" mazurka dance.

 

 Iwoyuld think that in a real common sense world we would like to identify the enemy and the threat and analyze and understand the threat. But instead our media and politicians and their useful idiots are trying to figure out how in least offensive way they could report the obvious news. To anybody with common sense it is obvious that we are targets of international terrorism fueled by Islamic supremacist ideology. But why is this denial happening?
That is because Islamic supremacy is a mainstream interpretation of Islam." As a result, "the politicians and the media left of center has convinced itself and tries to convince us that even whispering the plain common sense and obvious truth would be condemning all of Islam, meaning all Muslims -- of course  no one sensible claims Islamic supremacy is the only way of interpreting Islam, and, in fact, jihadist  kill more Muslims than non-Muslims." See, the point is, when you say that there is an ideology of Islamic supremacy within Islam, the detractors say, "You can't say that! You can't demean all of Islam." The fact is that there are many interpretations of Islam however the the supremacy of the islam - Sharia law is the mail stream of Islam.
The politicians led by Obama and Hillary then claim that Islam is indivisible part of US history and is part of the fabric of USa same as Chevrolet. But the fact is that historically Jihad and Islam in general is alien to USA and to perception of the world as viewed by western culture. That does not mean that Islam is not part of UWestern fabric is bad but there is not much in history of USA which would prove that Islam historically had been part of it from it's inception which is what Obama is trying to tell us.
Because we are trapped in a politically correct fantasy world, where terrorism has nothing to do with Islam and Islam is innately American," that is a fantasy world because of which  the political class will never admit that totally obvious jihadist attacks by guy named Huhamed or Ali al Something who was screaming Allahu Agbar whille pulling trigger on his gun or dialing phone to explode pipe bomb in public place - such as those akin the ones that just occurred in New York, New Jersey, and Minnesota -- are international terrorism.
Instead they have to be disgruntled employees, lone wolves, rejected homosexual lovers radicalized by some outside force like Donald Trump or Fox News or Rush Limbaugh.
That is a pathetic self-parody. I am so tired of this BS screenplay by which consideration of terrorism is virtual impossibility , even when a mass-casualty attack with the objective of intimidating a civilian population or government, (and that is official definition of terrorist act), is not called terrorism.
Obama, Hillary, the Democrat Party and lets not forget many republicans and same as FOX news often as well, don't want to come anywhere near discrediting Islamic supremacist ideology because they can't. They've pained themselves into the corner where there just isn't any terrorism in Islam, and from that then "must" follow that any terrorist attack as a PC fact is not result of Islamic supremacy ideology. We are told instead that what we have here is bunch of rare extremist wackos who were pushed into doing what they are doing by American bigots and racist and it is fault of Bush or some anti Islam video or cartoon or now of course that despicable racist( of course) Trump.
However if we are not going to identify the source of these attacks and start fighting them accordingly and if we will instead live in our PC La-La land then we will continue to be targets of these attacks in ever increasing way as we can see is happening right now in front of our eyes.

And then one flew over the cuckoo nest. Or you have the domestic terrorists who kill abortion Drs(because Christianity told them to), and gays (because the Christian bible told them to). What you fail to realize in your push for war, more war, more war is in essence you and your lot are no better than some of the past, present and future leaders you despise, sad you can't even see it. War is never the answer ESPECIALLY a RELIGIOUS WAR backed by whacks who just do not get it. By the way - in your answer to stupidity - yes, in practice we won WW2 but in the terms of innocents and soldiers lost and maimed, did we really win? There is a cost to any society who wages war. I know you can't see it. See Trump likes the way Russian and Korean leaders are, I wonder why? Think about it.

Oh I can see the cost of war I just think that you are wrong saying that "war is not an answer". Please humor us all here and tell us if you would have the power, what would be your answer to Hitler during ww2.

OH and one more thing. Just because one religious group does something wrong that does not mean that the Jihadist are OK to commit terrorist acts as you argue above. Such trivially primitive ill-logic disqualifies you from calling me stupid. ;)

I don't think I called you stupid. The answer is war but war comes with a cost to a society so is there really a winner and a loser? BTW, I don't need to humor you, you do that all on your own.

It's true, the 20,000 plus members of ISIS who have been killed under Obama's watch are a sign that we aren't fighting the battle at its source.

Also, two things when someone says that war isn't the answer: one, to bring up the US's response to the Germans leaves out a step in that equation. Had the idea that war is not the answer taken over in Germany then maybe WW2 would not have happened at all.

The other thing is that there is something known as context and in this case, when someone says that war is not the answer, I take it to be a rejection of Clausewitz (whether or not the person knows who Clausewitz is and whether or not this is based on a misinterpretation of Clausewitz). For those who don't know, Clausewitz wrote, "War is a mere continuation of politics by other means." This does not mean Clausewitz endorsed this idea but it is accurate as far as an observation.

And let's not gloss over the fact that Trump has a problem with due process and the Constitution in general. He actually has taken issue with the fact that the NY/NJ bomber will actually receive medical care and have legal representation. But it's Obama who for the last 8 years was going to make himself dictator of America.

GSDadmin. of course you called me stupid. Here is quote:
"You are either drunk or stupid."

What don't you understand about OR?

@GSDadmin

Yes of course there is a winner and loser. Germany was loser and Allies were the winner. You are making a mistake by mixing reason for the war with sacrifices made in war. Sometimes the war needs to be fought and with that comes sacrifices. That is the truism of the life.