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watsongsd

by watsongsd on 28 March 2007 - 01:03

I have a 26 month old female working line Shepherd. She is in her forth heat and the breeding is not working. Can I help this breeding, if so how? The male is taller than her and longer, so he is either going above her or too far behind. Thanks.

Trailrider

by Trailrider on 28 March 2007 - 02:03

Try positioning her so she is higher than him, like put him in a slight depression in the ground.

Dog1

by Dog1 on 28 March 2007 - 03:03

You may need to insert part A into part B. The explaination is a little graphic and this is a G rated site. Send an e mail if you have difficulty. It's pretty basic.

Steel Magnolia

by Steel Magnolia on 28 March 2007 - 04:03

Maybe it wasn't meant to be? That is why some breeders take phenotype AND genotype into consideration when mating two dogs... On what characteristics was the male selected? If they can't breed without help, it likely wouldn't happen in nature.

by olskoolgsds on 28 March 2007 - 06:03

Steel Magnolia had my thoughts. But my experience in breeding is way too limited to advice you, just something to consider if it becomes a real problem.

KYLE

by KYLE on 28 March 2007 - 12:03

"If they can't breed without help, it likely wouldn't happen in nature." They are now domesticated animals and hardly anything we do with them has to deal with nature. In the wild they don't ask to see a-stamps or OFA's. If all thoughts and conciderations for this pairing is to improve the GSD, consider artificial insemination. You have to ask yourself if the male is experienced? Is the female willing to stand and flagging? What day is the female in her heat. Consult a reproductive specialist. If you want this litter seek professional help. Not the free hap-hazard suggestions found from some on this website. You're going to wind up wasting time and missing your females window. Kyle

Dog1

by Dog1 on 28 March 2007 - 12:03

Nature is a wonderful thing. Anybody have an old tomcat around the barn? The father of all those cute kitties that's all scratched up and has an ear missing? Yes they do mate in the wild. I'm not sure I want my stud dog looking like the tomcat. Mating is not always a one hour affair. Males left to mate females on their own may have trouble tieing females their first time, there may be a serious dog fight as the two figure out if they are ready to mate, and a dozen other situations that just take time in nature. Those that drive 8 hours or more to a male and have to be back to work in the morning, may not appreciate the mating ritual that can take hours unassisted. Nature is a wonderful thing. It may not work in every situation. There are jobs and lifestyles to consider. Testing to determine the correct time to breed, assisting with the breeding, and even C sections that are all important tools that are necessary from time to time to produce a litter. So it sounds noble to say "If it doesn't happen naturally, it wasn't meant to be." But that's not reality.

watsongsd

by watsongsd on 28 March 2007 - 21:03

Thanks for all of your responses. I will try to make the depression, and insert part a into part b. If it doesn't work this time I think I will use artifiacl insemination next time. Thanks again Trailrider and Dog1.

by clearwater2 on 29 March 2007 - 10:03

I can tell you my wife is 40 cm shorter as me ,I am almost 100 kg and she is 65, the first time it was dark and a bit clumsy, but believe me it works. why for G sake dont you let nature do his job????? let them a day togheter and dont interfere.... another thing is if she is very tense and agressiv and wont allowed the male , then you can give the 1 hour inj.

Shelley Strohl

by Shelley Strohl on 30 March 2007 - 21:03

Make sure the hymen is not made of stainless steel. (Think 45 yr. old virgin, ha ha ha) He may be making the target only to hit a wall. Vet can take care of it if you're squeemish. SS





 


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