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bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 13 April 2016 - 16:04

Anesthesia is a profitable and time saving tool for veterinarians but it is not good for your dogs or pets.  There are breed differences and just as in humans individual differences involving sensitivity, metabolism, and health problems caused by anesthesia use in humans and other animals including our dogs.   For reasons poorly understood anesthetics can be repeatedly safe in the same animal until one day the animal dies unexpectedly.  Michael Jackson is proof that repeated use of anesthesia can be deadly.

http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2016/04/13/dog-general-anesthesia-guidelines.aspx?utm_source=petsnl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=art1&utm_campaign=20160413Z1&et_cid=DM102722&et_rid=1439824055


susie

by susie on 13 April 2016 - 17:04

"Anesthesia is a profitable and time saving tool for veterinarians but it is not good for your dogs or pets."

I´d change your statement into:

"Anesthesia is a life saving, profitable and time saving tool for veterinarians but used without knowledge it may be not good for your dogs or pets."

"Michael Jackson is proof that repeated use of anesthesia can be deadly."

Bubba, I love Michael Jackson because of his songs, his music, his talent - but mentally this guy had a lot of problems, and he misused drugs for decades.

I really hope that healthy dogs normally are not on drugs regularly ...

by hexe on 14 April 2016 - 05:04

bubba, geez, have you not yet run out of that black crepe yet?

Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 14 April 2016 - 06:04

The drug used on Michael Jackson should never have been given to him. It was an anesthetic being used as a sleep aid. It was being used under conditions where the person being given it was not being properly monitored, and it was being given without proper resuscitation equipment being available. It totally boggles my mind that anyone with an MD's license would do something so utterly stupid.

dragonfry

by dragonfry on 15 April 2016 - 18:04

Bubba have you ever worked in a vet's office? Have you ever had an animal under sedation? Because i can assure you it's not something take lightly. I use to groom for a vet, using sedation as a tool to groom- to deal with some pets there were down right dangerous to handle.
We never sedated a pet without current bloodwork, something many owners fought because bloodwork, not sedation we expensive.
It took 1 or sometimes 2 people to monitor the animal that i was working with. Dog, cat, rabbit.

And MJ was a wacko!
Fry

bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 16 April 2016 - 02:04

 "A one-year study in a teaching ( veterinary ) hospital shows that dogs and cats typically experience a 1 in 9 chance of anesthetic complications, with a 1 in 233 risk of death.[7] A larger-scale study states the risk of death in healthy dogs and cats as 1 in 1849 and 1 in 895 respectively. For sick dogs and cats, it was 1 in 75 and 1 in 71 respectively. For rabbits, the risk were 1 in 137 and 1 in 14 respectively for the healthy and sick groups." ( Wikipedia source )

The older the animal is the more likely the animal ( human, dog, horse, etc ) is to be brain damaged, injured, killed immediately or die because of anesthesia.  Injectible anesthetics are much more dangerous than gases but are the type most used by a veterinarians.  There are a lot of animals ( humans, dogs, horses, etc ) that suffer brain damage due to anaethetic use.  Those animals exposed to multiple uses of anesthetic are increasingly more likely to be damaged or die due to their use.  In many cases the doseage that was once safe for a patient becomes toxic or deadly after repeated use.  Put another way .. every use of an anesthetic causes some level of damage and the damage accumulates over time if the process is repeated.  MJ died of repeated use of an anesthetic until one day the safe dose for him was no longer safe. 

http://healthland.time.com/2011/08/04/under-the-knife-study-shows-rising-death-rates-from-general-anesthesia/

http://www.prweb.com/releases/brain_damage/anesthesia/prweb2382844.htm


by vk4gsd on 16 April 2016 - 02:04

Tell your dentist you want yr next tooth pulled with no anesthesia.

by hexe on 16 April 2016 - 03:04

I warrant that many of those patients that were lost subsequent to general anesthesia would have died with or without it--aside from elective procedures that are customary [i.e. sterilization, dentals, radiography for health certifications], the majority of animals that require general anesthesia do so because of illness or injury with few or no other options available if the animal's life is to be preserved.

Living is in itself risky, bubba...you weigh the pros and cons, and try to make the most informed choices for yourself as well as those who rely on you for their care. That's the best any of us can do.

by vk4gsd on 16 April 2016 - 03:04

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/13/followers-of-christ-idaho-religious-sect-child-mortality-refusing-medical-help?CMP=fb_

 

Is this hubba, idiots that think they know better than modern medicine doomed their own child.


bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 16 April 2016 - 17:04

If any of you think that both human and animal medicine is not driven by profits first and foremost you are sadly mistaken. Anesthetics are hugely profitable for doctors, hospitals, and the corporations that make and sell them. Deaths and injuries attributed to the use of anesthetics are vastly unreported and under reported. Many people suffer brain damage and organ damage which kills them later and the almost non-existent use of brain monitors in human medicine ( and they are never used in animal medicine ) means that the use of anesthesia in animals is the equivalent of being choked until you black out. If your airway or heart action is restricted too much by the anesthetic you suffer brain damage, organ damage, coma, or death. The use of anesthesia also results in damage and death due to blood pressure spikes and crashes as well as hyper and hypothermia.  If you take your 10 year old dog in to have their teeth cleaned under sedation don't be surprised if they don't wake up.






 


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