Breed Surveyor refuses to breed survey my female - Page 1

My name is Ahsam Waheed and I am a member of GSDCP< German Shepherd DOg CLub of Pakistan >.Yesterday, there was a breed survey and I took my female for the breed survey and she is pregnant and I want the litter to be tattooed, so I decided to have her breed surveyed. The Breed Survoyer Ahmad Virk refused to breed survey my female for no apprenat reason and was rude, I complained this matter with the club, but did not receive any reply from those quarters. I hereby appeal to WUSV member countries and related forum to look into this high handedness of this stupid person. This matter need immediate atention. I AM SURE THAT THIS TOPIC WILL BE SOON DELEATED.... AHSAN WAHEED

how pregnant is she? Perhaps if she is obviously pregnant the judge did not choose to survey her. Or was there some other disqualifying fault? Otherwise all you can do is contact the SV and report the Koermeister. Or whatever organization that is in charge of that particular judge.

Hi, thank you for your kind words, the entire club, Mr Imran Husain, Col Roy and even the SV has not replied to my email. She is just 4 weeks pregnant and we do not have bitw work at our breed survey. I am just been victimized as I did not opt the stud ( NANDO ALTENBERGER LAND) which is owned by the breed surveyer Ahmad Virk, This is the main reason

Well Technically you are not supposed to breed a bitch until she has been breed surveyed. Not after the fact.

Well Technically you are not supposed to breed a bitch until she has been breed surveyed. Not after the fact.

Tondawg, technically that is not correct. Other countries, other rules. According to SV rules in Germany the breed survey is desired but not required. And you can title, show or breed survey a female up to 4 weeks after mating - however, that is also at the discretion of the judge or Koermaster, who can refuse a bred female to be presented. Other countries may handle these things differently. Ahsan, I was curious and had a look at the GSDCP website. Nice to see its in English. It says that you can still get papers without a breed survey, just white papers. And you can upgrade the pups papers to pink papers later: "If pups are born from either a male or a female who is not breed surveyed then those pups will be issued with White Papers. If, however, either or both parents are subsequently surveyed, the breeder (only the breeder of the litter) can apply for all the pups born prior to be issued with Pink Papers after surrendering the White Papers." So I don't really see where your problem is. Get the female breed surveyed after the litter when she is back in shape. Or next time do it early enough so that you will not have all the hassle afterwards. If she still needed a show rating of at least G... I see if that is not done then the club will not issue papers, well, seems that there are lots of shows all the time, and then there really is no excuse for doing it at the last minute. Live and learn.

Hello D.H, Its nice that you took so much pain to read our web page,but belive me, this club is full of idiots. My female was rejected due to personal grounds and not any technical fault of the female or its papers. I just did not use the KOR MASTER's dog for stud, which is almost 69-70 cm. You can check him as NANDO ALTENBERGER LAND. He is also breed surveyed, but I was punished just that I did not use him. I have also written to SV and now I plan to write to every WUSV member country and will inform about the injustice done here. Last time, Earnst Ruckert was here and I can remember what he said. Ahsan

Ahsan, all the clubs are full of idiots. Get used to it :o). There was no real damage done, just inconvenience. And that could have been avoided with a little better planning. The SV will not care, as it does not concern them. So don't waste their time, or yours. A judge does have "The Power", as it is his/her call what goes and what does not, and a judge is well within his right not to accept a bred female. I am certain that he will not refuse all of the females in your country that were not bred to his male. A statement like that easily makes you look like one of those people clubs tend to be full of... ;o) Accepting a judges call is part of sportsmanship. Sportsmanship includes accepting the rules of the game. It is a game after all. Learn how to play it including all the little nuances if you want to play it better. In every game there are a few calls that some consider 'unfair'. Whether they really are or not is not the issue, in most cases its a matter of perception. Have never seen anyone complain when their dog placed well though they did not think their dog was really deserving that time.

If you have been in the breeding/showing ''business' for any length of time at all, you understand that 'idiots' are everywhere, judges have preferences, and politics play a part.. This is how it is. Whining about results is poor sportsmanship.

Take her to another place for her breed survey,  check list and be there  ,,,If you continue to dig your own grave with all the complaints   you will be banned and never get her surveyed.....

Just shut up and go take her someplace else......the louder you yell the less likelly anyone will listen or will give you a survey......learn to play the game....