Eska's Hips - Page 1

Since the vet was doing an x-ray of Eska to see if she had pyometra, I asked if I could see her hips. A bad set of hips would have made the decision whether to spay her much easier. Unfortunately, her hips look just GREAT!

And yeah, it's now confirmed she's got full-blown pyo. I'll be taking her to Guelph (OVC) either later tonight or early tomorrow morning.

 

SS, so sorry to hear she has pyo. :'( Poor girl. Are you opting to spay her then, or trying the meds?

Beautiful hips!!! Definitely excellent in my opinion. I hope everything works out for you and Eska. I pray the meds will work for her.

Sure sounded like it SS. I have had too much experience with it unfortunately. I looked in to the hormones for it. I opted for a spay and she had great hips and elbows and temperament. She would have had to be bred on her next heat and she would have been young as she was just a year old when she got the pyo. There was also lesser of a chance of conceiving. The hormones they get cause cramping as it makes the uterus expel the pus. I thought of her instead of myself. I was really upset but happy now that I did it.

Sunsilver, since you mentioned Guelph (OVC). Do you know if they ever intend to restart there hip certification program?

Good luck with the pyo.

1gsd1_ 'Sure sounded like it SS. I have had too much experience with it unfortunately. I looked in to the hormones for it. I opted for a spay and she had great hips and elbows and temperament. She would have had to be bred on her next heat and she would have been young as she was just a year old when she got the pyo. There was also lesser of a chance of conceiving. The hormones they get cause cramping as it makes the uterus expel the pus. I thought of her instead of myself. I was really upset but happy now that I did it.'

Thumbs up @ this

Thanks. She would have been maybe 18 months, not all that young but geez just bred one for the first time and she is 4 1/2! I wasn't ready to breed this female who I still have and then keep something out of her when I wasn't ready to and have to breed her on every heat thereafter. I thought how valuable is this one dog? Her hips and elbows just came back "a" 1 and sire and dam are very nice imports. Sire is titled. Dog herself wasn't going to be so I thought of all of that and what she may go through getting this crap out of her uterus with not a guarantee she would even get pregnant. I just stopped second guessing it. If SS goes ahead she should do the same, that was the right decision for her.

Good explanation, 1gsd1. Another issue that might need to be considered, is Why did this young female develop pyo and is there a propensity which could be passed on to progeny if any were to be produced?
Why is it imperative to salvage the infected uterus of this young female after lengthy life threatening illness?

29 yrs ago I had my smooth fox terrier spayed after one litter. The vet told me he discovered she had pyo during spay, but she never showed any symptoms...thankfully she was spayed before she ever developed fever, or quit eating...she was still healthy and I was graced with her companionship for 14 wonderful years.

It doesn't make someone a bad owner if they opt to treat medically instead of spaying when their female develops pyometra, and each bitch is different. It may have been the right decision for your girl, 1gsd1, but that doesn't make it the right one for everyone's dog.

joanro, "lengthy life threatening illness"? This just started with this pup--there's been no 'lengthy' illness here. As to why the pup developed the condition, well, it's because she has a uterus, isn't it?

Had a friend who's bitch developed it after swimming in a rather scummy pond on a hot day while she was in standing heat--it was treated medically, and the bitch recovered uneventfully and produced three nice litters for her owner. Another friend's female developed it post-breeding, under the best of conditions, was also treated medically and was the foundation bitch for that person's breeding program. In both instances, as in Eska's, these were open pyos that were caught very early in the infection. None of the daughters or granddaughters of either of these bitches have gone on to develop pyometra to date, and there's nothing in the literature to support it being a propensity.

If it's determined that spaying her is the best course of action for her health, I've no doubt that SS will elect to do so, but there's not a damn thing wrong with being open to treating a medical condition medically, since there's equally as much risk to the animal by putting her under general anesthesia and putting a scalpel to inflamed, infected and highly vascular tissue...in some respects, more so.

Hexe, to me, a dog being off their feed due to infection for  a week is lengthy in my opinion and pyometra is life threatening. Don't treat it and see the outcome. Saving the uterus just to get puppies? Aren't you the one who tells people just having a uterus is not good enough reason to breed. I have had one female who ever had pyo in thirty one years of owning intact females so, no, just having a uterus doesn't mean they are going to have pyo, obviously...
Whatever. 
Best wishes for eska's health.