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by Gracie on 19 March 2007 - 18:03
There is a probe that is used to detect estrous in swine but works with canine as well. My daughter who is in veterinary school said they just got one of these for the reproductive department for class use.
Anyone here have one of these? If so, does it really work?
Just curious.
Here is the link
http://www.draminski.com/products/pigs/draminski_wykrywacz_rui_dla_swin
by Abhay on 19 March 2007 - 19:03
http://www.camelotfarms.com/premate.php

by Brittany on 19 March 2007 - 22:03
The only Estrous detector you would need is to have an unaltered experienced breeding male. why pay 299 Euro for this gizmo crap when you could use mother nature, which is FREE!

by Birdy on 19 March 2007 - 23:03
Brittany-
Do you ever have anything intelligent to say? What an ignorant statment you just made.
Birdy...

by Brittany on 20 March 2007 - 02:03
Birdy
That's just your opinion. It's funny because you couldn't even answer me in an intelligent way... only complaining at my posts. Real intelligent huh? If you think that I'm being ignorant.. why don't you type something thats worth reading, besides complaining. If breeders don't trust their World class stud dog to know when a female is ready to be bred.. maybe they should find a different hobby and tool to make money off of. You do NOT need fancy equipment to breed dogs for gods sakes. Animals in general know when it's the right time to mate, but no the stupid human who are breeders are so impatient and want their bitches bred every sec, even going as far as giving them hormonal injections to start their cycles early.
BREEDING TAKES PATIENCE AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT... DON'T BREED!
I Don't think it takes a rocket scientists to figure it out, right Birdy? Since you're claiming that I don't have any intelligence and that I'm showing ignorants.
Please explain your differences.. and explain why breeders must buy something like this to breed their animals rather than trusting their dogs instincts.

by Zahnburg on 20 March 2007 - 02:03
Brittany,
Imagine for a moment that you have a nice female that you are looking to breed. You research pedigrees and find the perfect stud; he is in California and you live in, I don't know, let's say Floridia. Wouldn't it be nice to know that she is ready to breed before you ship her. It would not be good to ship her and pay X many dollars, only to find out she was too late.
Many people use studs that are located very far from them. It is very costly to make a mistake like this.
I always use a progesterone test, perhaps this is something that will replace that. When you think about it, 299 Euros for a one time purchase, as oppossed to $50 a pop for progesterone, (maybe two or three per breeding), not to mention the costs of the bitch missing, is pretty damn cheap.

by Bob-O on 20 March 2007 - 06:03
What a good idea, and thank you for mentioning it Gracie. I can see someone like myself (very small-time hobby breeder) being reluctant to spend the money for one of these units, but if I was having two (2) or more litters per year I think that it would be an excellent investment.
It only takes a few progesterone tests to equal the cost of this unit, and a way to test and and make an accurate prediction (without need for an appointment, then the 24-hour or 48-hour wait for the results) could save some money and no doubt some aggravation, especially when considering an off-site breeding.
I don't think that I will ever see the need for one of these, but I certainly see where it could pay for itself very quickly.
Thanks for the information,
Bob-O

by Oskar1 on 20 March 2007 - 11:03
Hi everyone,
Hey Bob, hope everything is fine with you. As always you have it right, Zahnburg i bow to you for your patience with Britt, she talks faster than she thinks.
Last heat of my female : 1. progeteron test @ day 11
2. @ day 15
3. @ day 17
4. @ day 19
5. @ day 20
6. @ day 21
and then i could drive ! Definetly worth a thought !
Regards
Ulli

by Avorow on 20 March 2007 - 19:03
But has anybody used this? It might be interesting to use this and do progesterone testing at the same time, just to measure the accuracy. Great hope though, progesterone tests for us always have a waiting period due to our distance from the lab, draw on Monday results Tuesday pm or Wednesday am. That really sucks as well!
Hmmm, now we need an EPT test for the female post breeding!
Lorri
by jdh on 21 March 2007 - 03:03
This was the subject of a previous post. If my memory is correct the consensus was very good. I will see if I can find the old thread. Jonah
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