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ErtelHaus

by ErtelHaus on 22 October 2015 - 21:10

So I know there have been posts about hernias before but I received a puppy who has a hernia about the diameter of a quarter and sticks down about an inch. I haven't had any dogs with hernia's so I'm not really sure what is big and what is ok - but it seems really large to me. My vet said she should absolutely NOT be a breeder and I should have it fixed in the next couple months. How do you determine what is too big? My vet said she didn't believe it was caused by the mother but again I'm not sure how you'd know unless you are the breeder. Feel free to fire away because I'm really trying to make a determination on keeping her or not for breeding.

Western Rider

by Western Rider on 22 October 2015 - 22:10

Love those Vets. 

More information is needed,  How old is the pup is first.

Is it a REAL hernia that means it is an actual hole, again age will play on this.

Some dogs have some tissue that is let out of the closer like an outies belly button, sometimes the mother does pull on them and cause a problem.

Not all bumps mean you cannot breed.  Google this and you will find many sites that explain the different types.


Cutaway

by Cutaway on 23 October 2015 - 00:10

I always heard that this was common, is it not? I have also heard that the most common remedy to to gently rub the hernia in circular motion while applying gentle pressure till it goes back in the hole... Always thought this sounded a little 'wife's tale'ish' but i did it on my current dog when he was a pup, took a week or so and it was gone...

I really hope that others from PDB chime in and shed some more accurate light on how to treat this for most common cases

Western Rider

by Western Rider on 23 October 2015 - 00:10

Cutaway it depends on the age of the pup that can work.


by leslieann43 on 23 October 2015 - 11:10

Where is this hernia located on your female? From what I understand the "real" harmful hernias are the ones down in the groin area not the "umbilical hernias". With umbilical hernias sometimes a little fluid leaks out creating that bubble, sometimes it is the mother licking or chewing too hard on the umbilical cord or it could be from the puppy climbing out of the whelping box ect. Push your finger into it gently to feel if there is a hole or a slit inside, if you don't feel a hole its ok. from what I was told if it is closed up there is no reason to get it fixed except for cosmetic reasons. I know of several females with umbilical hernias that size that have been used for breeding and whelped with no issues but if it is a hernia that she was born with and you breed her, you can expect a puppy or two to have them also. and yes, rubbing the bubble and pushing it back in does help if it is a young puppy. If it is a hernia located somewhere other than the umbilical area then I would agree with your vet and not breed her. there is no way to tell if the umbilical hernia was caused by the mother or if the pup was born with it, even the breeder may not know.

If your vet felt the hernia and it is open and feels that there are inside parts coming through the hole, then yes you have to get it fixed because the hernia could close around those parts and strangle the organ, putting the dog at great risk,


fawndallas

by fawndallas on 25 October 2015 - 01:10

Same issue with my new puppy, umbilical If I get it fixed, will this be considered cosmetic and disqualify her from conformation shows, AKC.

Western Rider

by Western Rider on 25 October 2015 - 14:10

No one would know by just looking unless you had the worlds worst Dr.

I have never heard this being against any rules.


Kimmelot

by Kimmelot on 26 October 2015 - 22:10

http://www.showdogsupersite.com/kenlclub/breedvet/umbilical.html

Here is an explanation of hernia's from a breeder/Vet. I hope it helps.


by leslieann43 on 27 October 2015 - 11:10

good article

ErtelHaus

by ErtelHaus on 27 October 2015 - 14:10

An image

 

Ok everyone here is a photo of her Hernia - She is 18 weeks old and it is hard. It cannot be pushed back up.






 


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