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by GSD Admin on 18 July 2015 - 21:07


Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 18 July 2015 - 21:07

Who the fuck goes to bed and leaves their dog in a car for 10 hours

(whatever temperature it is) ???


by hexe on 18 July 2015 - 23:07

I just can't read another one of these. It needs to cost these guys their jobs when they do this, period. Edited to add: And they should be charged with abuse and neglect that causes the death of an animal, along with carelessness and destruction of a public resource, have to repay the taxpayers for the value of a dog with that level of training, and be fined on top of all of it. There only one excuse for this happening: the dog and officer are in the vehicle, or dog is properly left in the vehicle while the officer steps out of the car for a traffic stop or something similar, and then the officer unexpectedly either dies or is so seriously ill or wounded that they are not able to contact anyone, and it's in a secluded area where no one is likely to happen upon the scene for hours or days. That's about the only situation I can think of where it's not the handler's fault.

I'm not skilled in technology, but I can't believe that there's not some way to make a simple device that could be attached to the dog's collar which would automatically make a 9-1-1 contact if the temperature of the area the dog is in reaches a predetermined point just below a dangerous one, and and does not drop back down within a set short amount of time, and with the same type of GPS in a cell phone so the operator could dispatch emergency aid for the dog. Heck, it could probably be made with parts harvested from outdated cell phones, so it could probably be pretty cheap to manufacture. No dog should die because their owner or handler is so careless and unthinking...

 


Hired Dog

by Hired Dog on 18 July 2015 - 23:07

There is such a device Hexe, its been around for 20 plus years and its called the "Hotdog" system. It monitors the temp in the back of the car and it has several options available, rolling down electric windows, setting off the siren, back in the day when we had beepers, it would beep you, etc, BUT, this system works ONLY when the car is running and you have preset it to a certain temp...if it gets higher than that, any/all of the above things go into effect. A lot of depts have them in their cars, but, again, car needs to be running for it to work. It can also be connected to a "bail out" system that will open and keep open a back door allowing for the dog to exit.


by hexe on 19 July 2015 - 00:07

Hired Dog, I knew about the 'Hotdog' system, but as you pointed out, the vehicle has to be running, and even then, there have been documented instances where it didn't save the dog because the vehicle itself stalled out. That's why I'm thinking of something that would operate independantly of the vehicle, and would contact someone OTHER than the dog's handler in case the handler was incapacitated and that was the reason the dog was locked in the car...

I just can't imagine how a person can forget their dog--or child--is sitting inside a parked vehicle when the temperature and humidity conditions pose a threat to their lives.  I sort of get the people who take their dog shopping with them, and swear they're just going to be 5 minutes and the windows are cracked, because they really do think they're only going to be 5 minutes...so when I approach those people and tell them I'll be calling the police on them if they leave that dog in the car, so they really better be in and back in 5 minutes or less, I understand why they get pissed off--but I don't care and I do it anyway.

But when it comes to LE dogs dying in hot cars, I just can't find any way to translate the frame of mind that allows that to happen into something I can understand.


3Shep2

by 3Shep2 on 19 July 2015 - 12:07

I would not think it would be that difficult to design a failsafe in the system to trip either the vechicle horn when the engine fails or to transmit a signal similiar to that of the "officer down" in their portable radios to the comm centers-thus prevention of incidents of this nature before it happens.  Demands should be made of the manufacturers of such features-the technnology exists.


by joanro on 19 July 2015 - 13:07

How about demands made of the people who are supposed to be responsible for the dogs.....they have the most complex computer system ever created, but they need to be held accountable for not using it. Always throwing the blame on some technology is only allowing more disconnect to the real world.
These guys all need a swift kick in the ass to bring them around to reality...when a dog is left in a vehicle unsupervised, they die !

by Blitzen on 19 July 2015 - 13:07

What sort of idiot forgets/leaves a dog in a car for 12 hours? Off with his head! Thumbs Down


by Blitzen on 19 July 2015 - 13:07


Who the fuck goes to bed and leaves their dog in a car for 10 hours

(whatever temperature it is) ???

That cuts to the chase, Hundmutter. No more excuses for these assholes, they need to lose their jobs and spend some time sharing the prison shower with Bubba.


3Shep2

by 3Shep2 on 19 July 2015 - 13:07

For what it is worth, per my prior post, these monitor units are already in existence and undoubtly installed in a vast majority of K-9 vehicles-they require a "manual" turnoff when the officer exit the vehicle . . . . . 






 


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