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Smiley

by Smiley on 25 June 2015 - 13:06

I was wondering why most working lines are black (like mine), black sable, sable, bi-color.  Why don't you see a lot of black and tan with the traditional saddle back pattern? I have never seen one at any of the 4 IPO fields I have trained at.....I flip through tons of my USCA magazines and haven't found one either.

Is it breeding preference, and if so, why?

Or, someone told me that working lines are of East German origin (like my bitch) and they didn't have access to black and tans because of the Berlin wall. But, then someone on here (forgive my memory) posted a video of early DDR dogs and there were definitely classic saddle backed black and tans.

I am extremely partial (that's and understatement) to the classic black and tan saddle back look. But, I don't want to give up the great traits from the working line. Are they more prominent in other countries but not the US?

Please...no bash fest.

 

Thank you,

Sarah


by Schaeferhund1 on 25 June 2015 - 14:06

Sarah, If you go back to your earlier thread looking for moderate conformation SL dogs, you'll see several posts about b/t saddle WL. 


Smiley

by Smiley on 25 June 2015 - 14:06

I did and just saw it was breeder preference. Trying to verify. Thanks....


AnaSilva

by AnaSilva on 25 June 2015 - 15:06

What exactly is a Saddle? Is Becky B/T Saddle? (she is still changing color)


by old shatterhand on 25 June 2015 - 16:06

Here is a black saddle,show and working dog.


by Von Ward Kennels on 25 June 2015 - 16:06

My boy Unkas z holykova

I got him from Czech through Petr spurny. all working lines. Super strong


CrashKerry

by CrashKerry on 25 June 2015 - 17:06

Simple because it's not the dominate color in the breed. Most working line breeders ignore color when making their breeding plans. Sable is dominate so you expect to see more sables. And with the increasing number of black dogs being popular studs more dogs are carrying the black recessive. I've found that black and tans that carry black tend to be more blanket that saddle. The showline folks have been solely breeding for one color for decades so of course there's a disproportionate number in those lines.

There's still working line saddle blacks and tans out there. I have one and so do several people in my club.

Smiley

by Smiley on 25 June 2015 - 18:06

Von Ward...nice head!

 

Crash...check your PM


Jyl

by Jyl on 25 June 2015 - 20:06


by xbitetab on 25 June 2015 - 20:06

 

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=500025-camerons-gator-vom-wolffhaus

 

Yes, Smiley, lots of saddleback blk/red or tan working dogs...THIS is me, with Camerons Gator vom Wolffhaus, son of Orthos v Tiekerhook, apprehension dog for Gal Co SO>

Orthos was first Tiekerhook imported here to USA and his owner is still alive and posts here.

Tupak






 


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