Opinion on Prospective Import from our local experts. - Page 1

Hi All

I have a strong interest in importing ( from Europe ). a pup from this litter. Can I have some opinions based on the peds.

Here is a link to the SIRE:   http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=2168190-xento-von-der-bergschlucht

 

Here is a link to the  DAM: http://en.working-dog.eu/dogs-details/1023684/Police-vom-Vogelsberger-S%C3%BCdhang

 

At the bottom of the dams page on working dogs eu, the mating is indicated.

Thanks in advance

No expert but import a young started dog that you have personally seen along with all health tests.


Smarter people than you have been ripped off by importing.

Can't fault either dog, but two things come to mind: first off, these lines are readily available here in the US, meaning you could find a comparable mating domestically and avoid the cost and hassle of overseas shipping, transferrng foreign registration and so forth, and depending on your willingness to travel, you could probably meet the parents of the pup, and the pup itself, before you brought it home.

Second thing--what interests YOU about this particular mating? What are you seeking from a pup out of this litter--what are your plans for him or her?

The third thing that comes to mind is that you've already got a whole lot of dog on your hands right now in your adolescent bitch, and at last report you hadn't yet started any type of formal and directed training with her--the last thing you need to add to that mix right now would be another puppy.  That has train-wreck written all over it.

Edited to add: No expert here, either...but always have a spare opinion I can share.

 

 

Why not get your current dog trained and on the way to becoming a good canine citizen before considering taking on another one?

If you are going to enter the puppy lottery, this looks nice. All standard caveats apply of course.

 

 

1) Other than Paska being a really good looking dog, I'd want to know why they did a 3-3 linebreeding on him.

2) I would also be very interested in Paska's health. He died at 7-1/2 years old. I'd want to know why.

3) See Hexe's post above.

Hexe, that's about the most agrees I've ever seen for a post on this board! Hope the OP listens...

OGBS, excellent points, too! If I found out a stud had died at such a young age, I'd probably RUN in the opposite direction! Lifespan has a very strong inheritable component, and I don't care for dogs that self-destruct at such a young age! 

 

All I am reading here is bunch of bumper stickers. (Besides OGBS). And PC opinions and clichés.  The fact I see  is that mother is Fast normal. Which in OFA evaluation is HD borderline. Nobody commented on that.  Fast Normal would not turn me completely off but it is a consideration  which you should be aware of.  Compare what you want the dog which you want to have with the  parents of the pup  which You are buying. make sure the breeder had been around for a while and has good reputation. If it is repeated breeding see how is the progeny doing and what hips they have. 

 As far as buying from Germany the fact is that Germans on average produce far(!!!)  better dogs then Americans even with the same or similar pedigrees. That is why even the best breeders in USa buy dogs in Germany,Holland, Belgium and Czech).If I would have a choice of a dog with similar pedigree from US and   from any of the countriesI have  mentioned above,  then in general termas,. I would go with those European countries hands down.  

 

I don´t think so ( Prager: "... the fact is that Germans on average produce far(!!!)  better dogs then Americans even with the same or similar pedigrees.") -

I think most of the "American" puppies are raised and trained (in case they are trained) differently.
The best puppy is lost, if it´s not supported and challenged accordingly.
The most reasons for any differences in my opinion you will find in nurture, not in nature.
A "good dog" most often is a well trained dog ( with or without title ), and as long as most of the American bred dogs are not trained, you will not be able to find a lot of good dogs.

"Bunch of bumper stickers" ? I´m with Hexe - the OP right now should train the dog he already owns, later on there might be time and space for another puppy.

 

Paska was seriously injured (penis fracture) breeding a female. He never recovered from it and had to be pts.