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marjorie

by marjorie on 16 March 2015 - 02:03

https://www.change.org/p/washington-gov-stop-the-killing-of-shelter-animals

I started a petition yesterday to stop the killing of shelter animals. I have gotten 3000+ signatures in one day, but I want the petition to go viral, so I can plan a million man march on Washington, DC!  I can no longer stand by and do nothing while the killings continue! I tried to rescue a beautiful young German Shepherd in El Paso, Texas, on Friday. He had no ID number. Many had tried to commit to him but it was very difficult without an ID. I called the shelter as soon as they opened, and I wasnt going to get off the phone until they tracked him down.... They told me they had just euthanized him before my call!!! OMFG!!!! He was only there for 3 days!!! They told me he was a good, sweet boy.. They apologized, as I burst into tears when they told me they had just killed him.I couldnt believe it- thought maybe they were mixing him up with another dog, since everyone had such a hard time trying to get him out. I called 3 more times, that day, and spoke to different people, and each one told me they were sure he was euthanized that morning.  I even had someone go to the shelter to look for him, to no avail... I did some further inverstigation and found out the shelter had empty pens.  Please help me STOP THE KILLING! I need your help to do this- the ANIMALS need your help! Please cross post this petition to everyone you know. I need the petition to go viral, so in the fall, we will have an organized group to stop this INSANITY! Killing is NOT a solution! Phillipe cannot have died in vain.... At least let his death shine a light for others in the shelters.

Meet the boy behind the glass, that I have named Phillipe, because he had no name for anyone to remember him by. Now he does.

I chose his name from the novel "The Man in the Iron Mask" who was wrongfully imprisioned... Here is a link to his video, taken in the shelter- look how beautiful, smart, young and alert he was!!! Look how clever, when he realized he might do better trying to get out by digging in the corner of the glass...

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10200557955908306

 

Please help me make sure Phillipe's murder will lead to change!  Thank you!

 


mrdarcy (admin)

by mrdarcy on 17 March 2015 - 20:03

I moved this thread from the Rescue forum hoping it would get more attention.


by hexe on 17 March 2015 - 22:03

It breaks my heart to learn of this tragedy, even knowing that this is but one of many that are happening, somewhere, every day.


by Pioneer Wife on 17 March 2015 - 23:03

A bill would need to be sponsored by a Congressional Representative or Senator, and then co-sponsored by many additional politicians to gain any traction. Liasons would need to be made.

You are dealing with many layers of city, town and county officials who will cry budget and space and will try to shoot any movement toward this down.

In the area we are in now, you will not find many of the larger breeds available for adoption, they never even make it to the public's notice.

I had a Animal Control officer confide to us, years ago at the veterinary clinic, that the administrator (a licensed DVM) of the city felt all of the larger, 'protection' breeds if you will, were dangerous and had them all put down almost immediately...  


by JonRob on 18 March 2015 - 03:03

Marjorie, that totally sucks but a petition won't do squat to fix problems like this. To make this insanity stop, folks need to do two things.

First, if you want to save a specific dog at a shelter get off the computer, get off the phone, get off your ass and get down to the shelter to pull the dog. NOW. Have a friend call the shelter to tell them you're coming for the dog while you're driving there. Any dog at a shelter is at very high risk of being killed anytime. It happens again and again and again. If you can't get to the shelter right away to pull the dog, find somone who can do it for you.

You should think of a dog at a kill shelter the same way you think of a dog stuck in the middle of a busy road dodging cars. If someone desn't do somehting right away the dog will probably die.

People who work at kill shelters kill dogs all the time. They do not care if they kill another one. People who can't stand it stop working at kill shelters.

Sometimes it helps a lot to offer a big donation for the dog. But offer the donation while you're on the way to the shelter to pull the dog.

Second, check out:

http://www.nathanwinograd.com/

He does stuff that actually reduces the killing. A lot. He's too optimistic sometimes, but he's got a lot of sense and good ideas that work.

 


by hexe on 18 March 2015 - 03:03

JonRob, it's not your fault because obviously you aren't familiar with marjorie, but believe me--she's managed to get hundreds of dogs pulled from shelters, transported and placed with fosters or in the kennels of rescue groups from her home  then most of us can ever hope to save...so it wasn't for lack of traveling from where she lives in a mid-Atlantic state to where this dog was located that was the reason she wasn't able to get him pulled. marjorie regularly co-ordinates long-distance rescues from shelters, raising the funds needed to get the dog released from the shelter and for transport, arranging for vet visits to obtain interstate health certificates and so forth. So please, don't admonish her to 'get off your ass and get down to the shelter to pull the dog', because I can assure you, if it were physically possible for her to do so for every dog she learns is in a shelter and at risk of euthanasia marjorie would be on the road pulling and transporting and delivering dogs 365 days a year.

The missing links in this latest episode is a lack of a national standard for procedures at animal shelters and humane societies--a three-day hold for strays is ridiculously brief, and there should be a requirement that every animal entering such a facility MUST be issued a unique ID number IMMEDIATELY, and that number must be clearly and prominently displayed on the kennel or cage in which the animal is being held. If marjorie had been able to provide an ID number for this dog, none of the shelter personnel she was speaking to in an effort to get this dog sprung would have been able to deny any awareness of the dog--and he might well be in a foster home tonight instead of his spirit having returned to the universe. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


by Pioneer Wife on 18 March 2015 - 06:03

Two other possibilities here, depending on whether this shelter uses ID numbers at all for dogs brought in: 
No ID number was issued, as the shelter had no intention of adopting out GSDs. So a personnel/director agenda.

The other is someone at the shelter wanted the dog for themselves or someone they knew, and took it out of the shelter: no ID, no trail, no trace. So wholesale theft then; but, what if the dog was truly lost and the owner was looking for it, is it know if the dog was a surrender? But they could lie about that too..

All they needed was a note on the phones about the dog to parrot out to any and all callers, in either case. Businesses do that all the time... 

There is a case where animal control released a dog to a 'rescue' the day after it brought it. The dog had bolted and was lost in a freak situation. AC was supposed to hold for by law for 3 business days and did not. The owners were and may still be fighting to get their dog back from the rescue, ridiculously in court now, even with multiple documents & a microchip # for proof of ownership. The 'rescue' will accept none of the proof of ownership. If someone at AC had decided not logged the dog in, the owners would have never known what happened to their dog. People always buck the rules, set their own agendas, thinking they are the exception to the rules, they know best.

 


by JonRob on 18 March 2015 - 12:03

Hexe, no one is "admonishing" Hexe. I know how much she cares and how hard she tries. Not Margorie's fault but that poor dog died because no one got to the shelter fast enough.

But the focus should be on what works not what doesn't.

Busting into tears won't stop dogs from being killed.

Signing a petition saying the killing should stop won't stop dogs from being killed.

A million man march saying the killing should stop won't stop dogs from being killed.

Dragging the usual red herrings onto PDB wont stop dogs from being killed.

A national wating period and ID standard for shelters will save some dogs but not most of them.

I like Marjorie and I would like her to feel better. But she won't feel better until the killing stops. Neither will I.

It's not enough to cry and rant and do something. Folks have to do something that works for a million dogs not just hundreds of them.

If you want to find out what works, look at what's has been proven not speculated to work:

http://www.nathanwinograd.com/

If nothing else check out the website so you know who NOT to give your money to. You might think your donated bucks are saving dogs when they're being used to kill them. Example: The guy who was paid half a million bucks to mismanage the ASPCA for years is now being paid big bucks to promote puppy mills. The stuff on that website will knock your socks off. And its factual.

Last post from me on this. I have dogs to train. BTW I don't charge for training rescue dogs and dogs at risk of landing in shelters. Fixing behavior problems prevents at least these dogs from being killed in shelters. But I its not enough. Check out Winograd.

 


by Blitzen on 18 March 2015 - 13:03

Depressing............


by joanro on 18 March 2015 - 14:03

Lack of owner retention of their dogs is why dogs end up in killing fields ( why do people still call them 'shelters').





 


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