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by Guppyfry on 01 January 2011 - 05:01
How can I teach him to release quickly and cleanly?
My other dog would do a beautiful snappy release naturally and automatically - it wasn't something I had to teach. Not sure why my young male is so slow with this. There are absolutely no issues with getting him to release a toy, a tug, or a sleeve. So it is not an issue of him not understand the "out" or the "give" command, but somehow a problem with understanding the head back movement.
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by Platz752 on 01 January 2011 - 20:01
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by Guppyfry on 01 January 2011 - 23:01
by EUROSHEPHERDS on 02 January 2011 - 19:01
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by Guppyfry on 02 January 2011 - 20:01
Any tips on getting him to open his mouth and snap his head back instead?
by hodie on 02 January 2011 - 21:01
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by sueincc on 03 January 2011 - 02:01
In the meantime, since his holding the dumbell is damn near perfect, how is everything else? Is he really fast and straight out and back, does he grab the dumbbell on the way out, NOT after he turns, does he sit straight and close holding the dumbbell up? Those are the things that can be worked on, you are lucky, you have a dog who genetically holds the dumbell hard without chewing, many would give their eye teeth for this.
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by Guppyfry on 03 January 2011 - 03:01
I got some good pointers at club today, so there are a few things we will be working on. I'm new here on the board, and was hoping that I could tap into the vast collective knowledge and experience of the members to give me a few things to think about. I wonder how people came to the conclusion that I am not happy with my dog's performance? I'm very happy with him, slowly working at getting our final act together, just trying to clean up a few details here and there. Next time I'll ask general questions and not make it about me.
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I didn't know that there was no requirement about snapping the head back. We have had long-time, top level trainers/judges come and work with us (we as a club are short on experience), and both have indicated that when the dog releases, he needs to move their head back - because if they just open their mouth and we pull the dumbbell out, then WE are taking the dumbbell out of their mouth. Is the snapping the head back just a fad or a preference for flashier obedience? Wouldn't we be marked down if the judge expects the clean release but does not see it?
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by sueincc on 03 January 2011 - 16:01
Maybe I am not understanding what you mean. Take a look at the dumbells on this dog, starts at around 4.30 (2010 WUSV 100pts) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2TZuTDnZcc
Also take a look at Ronny v d Berghe's dog (2010 WUSV) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4NHe40e7-k&feature=related
I take it this is what you want and what your dog is doing looks different but I can't picture it. You saying your dog doesn't "out" the dumbell cleanly, but I am having a hard time picturing in my head what it looks like when he pushes it out with his tongue, he's not fighting you for it, he outs immediately on command, right? Could you maybe find a video of a dog that is doing what you are trying to describe?
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by Guppyfry on 04 January 2011 - 01:01
I tried to find some videos of dogs doing what my dog is doing - googled - " Schutzhund retrieves" + training, but only could watch a few and had to stop as I was afraid my brain would bleed if I had to look through another slow, sloppy, chewy half-hearted retrieve. In all the (training) videos I saw, the handler would snatch the dumbbell out of the dogs mouth (before they dropped it, I guess).
Thanks for trying to help out - it is a weird one -
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