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by rtdmmcintyre on 10 October 2014 - 11:10
As those who know me can confirm, I am not a breeder. But My female Petra has been successfully bred. It has just been over 3 weeks and we did an ultrasound. It still is a bit early to tell how many are there, but the Dr. can identify at least 3 or 4. Due date is around Nov. 21. You want to talk about a learning experience. Petra has an extra long strange cycle. My vet was giving us a break on progesterone treatments so that we could kind of map out her cycle. He at the same time was watching the red cell structure. It actually was very interesting now that we are past all that. At the time it was rather stress full. You figure at the vet the initial progesterone and cell structure cost 160 dollars. And we had that checked twice a week for over a month. Just in all that we had over 1500 dollars just in vet bills, Even after his big discounts. I know you can do these tests yourself but this wasn't the one for me to learn on. I couldn't afford to miss this heat. We had missed the one before and missed out on a great opportunity.
Part of the problem with the last cycle that I missed was due to the fact that Petra keeps herself very clean. If she spots on the floor it is rare. So I didn't realize she had started her cycle until she was much further along.
How have some of you dealt with some of these females?
Reggie
by Blitzen on 10 October 2014 - 12:10
Before the progesterone tests were used, it wasn't all that unusual to have a female breed anywhere from day 10 to day 25. Back then we just took the female to the male beginning around her 7th day and let them decide when the time was right. We still got puppies and the success rate seemed to be higher than it is today with the use of progesterone. If doing a surgical implant progesterone is necessary. Otherwise, the dogs should know when the time is right without all the expense of progesterone testing.

by fawndallas on 10 October 2014 - 13:10
Rose was like that. She kept herself so clean and her valva never got very large it was hard to tell her cycles. It wasn't until she was 2 years old and allowed around her 1st male while in heat that the bleeding and swelling was noticeable .
Congrats on the pending puppies. Everyone stay healthy and don't forget pictures.

by rtdmmcintyre on 10 October 2014 - 13:10
We needed to know the time frame because we were traveling over 4 hours to the male. So that would have been even more costly to drive up there several times.
by joanro on 10 October 2014 - 13:10
So how many breedings did you get?

by rtdmmcintyre on 10 October 2014 - 13:10
Joan if we did what Blitzen said and went at day 7 nothing would have happened. And if we went up a couple of time a week there after it would have been more in Gas.
by Blitzen on 10 October 2014 - 13:10
Back in the day the stud owner would keep the female until there were at least 2 ties or the owner of the female would take the dog home with them. That way the dogs could be put together every day. Things were just less complicated then - we allowed the dogs to do their own "ready to breed" test and it usually resulted in puppies.
by vk4gsd on 10 October 2014 - 13:10
too complex these days, used to be let em run together for the whole cycle, same with horses, you dropped your mare at the stud owners place and never came back until a live foal was on the ground, for multiple mares you just owned the stallion for a few months. why is evrything so clinically based and complicated, is it better this way???
congrats on the mating, good luck.

by fawndallas on 10 October 2014 - 14:10
That is what I did Blitzen. I made arrangements for the stud owner to keep Rosé for the 2 weeks. They got to find out(along with their neighbors) that Rosé is a very loud and vocal lover.
by Blitzen on 10 October 2014 - 14:10
It can be a big pain to offer a dog at stud, the females can be troublesome and a very secure area is needed. I'd keep them inside my house or let the owner take my stud dog as long as I knew them well. I always had someone available to help with the breeding, some females are very difficult. The worst bite I ever received breaking up a fight was between a male trying to breed a female that was not interested. It's part of doing business as the person who offers their dog at stud. They need to have the right accomodations for every scenario.
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