A Monster: Elliot Rodger---Privileged, Young White Guy Killer Syndrome? - Page 1

A monster. That is what the family friend of the parents of Elliot Rodger believes, when he spoke on national TV this morning about the Santa Barbara rampage killer who stabbed and killed his roommates, before shooting to death two sorority sisters and a final male victim. Then he killed himself.

If only he would have been satisfied to just kill himself. Rational folk always think that, don't they? Such evil persons just do not care. It is being noticed that it is commonly the white, privilged, angry young men who rampage and kill. This Salon writer opines, 

 

He goes on and on about his status as a virgin, his inability to find a date since middle school, his anger and resentment about being rejected by blond, sorority women. In fact, he claims he will “slaughter every single spoiled, stuck-up, blond slut I see.” As Jessica Valenti so thoroughly demonstrates: “misogyny kills.” I am struck by the extent to which Rodger believed he was entitled to have what he deemed the prettiest girls, he was entitled to women’s bodies, and when society denied him these “entitlements” he thought it should become the public’s problem. He thought that his happiness was worth the slaughter of multiple people.

 

I’m also saying that white male privilege might be considered a mental health issue, because it allows these dudes to move through the world believing that their happiness, pleasure and well-being matters more than the death and suffering of others.

This is madness.

http://www.salon.com/2014/05/27/white_guy_killer_syndrome_elliot_rodgers_deadly_privileged_rage/

Again, calls for changes in USA for answers to end gun violence have begun. This angry father of his dead child is adamant in saying,

I don’t give a %$&* that you feel sorry for me," Martinez told politicians. "Get to work and do something.

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My kid died because nobody responded to what occurred in Sandy Hook … Why wasn’t something done? It’s outrageous.

http://www.salon.com/2014/05/27/i_don’t_care_about_your_sympathy_father_of_isla_vista_victim_urges_action_slams_politicians_for_gun_control_cowardice/

I read  this article for a "gun possession restraining order" and think it should be common sense for compliance by everyone. There will be those who prefer nothing be done, no doubt.

Instituting a Gun Violence Restraining Order in California would allow for specific interventions during critical times. In the case of the Isla Vista tragedy, the gunman's mother had voiced concerns that brought sheriff's deputies to her son's apartment in late April. As that shows far too well, family members often know best when a loved one is in crisis, and in most cases want to help them. But that takes time, and having easy access to a gun — or multiple guns, in the Isla Vista case — during a potentially dangerous period increases an individual's ability to do harm.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-binder-rodgers-gun-violence-isla-vista-20140527-story.html

He also stabbed two men in his apartment, with a knife.  His parents and a social worker alerted police to his ramblings indicative of a serious problem but unfortunately the police, not a licensed psychologist, from what I have read so far, evaluated him and decided he is a nice polite young man.  Unless one has a Masters in one of the clinical mental health fields (Doctorate is much more training, extra 2 years clinical training and a 1-2 yr post doc), one can not properly assess if a person is a danger to self or others.  I would also like to know where he learned his misogynistic ideas?  No one is born bad.  His belief that he was "entitled" to women is extremely disturbing.  His idea to pay back women for his own issues based on his "entitlement" now that should be the focus, not that he owned guns.

My kid died because nobody responded to what occurred in Sandy Hook … Why wasn’t something done? It’s outrageous.

I thought this guy (Martinez) looked familiar.

If you want to place blame, place it where it belongs, starting with his parents, shared by his doctor or doctors probably the best money could buy.

So much for qualified professionals.

As usual it's a media circus already.

I'm sad for the innocent victims, I'm also sad for Elliot, he was a victim as well.

Take that as you will.

Two things every mass killer like Elliot had in common, and I will only speak to psychotropicss.

Psychotropics are prescribed like candy for any problems by psychiatrists and medical doctors.  I see clients for the first time AFTER they have been placed on 3-5 psychotropics.  Heaven forbid we try to get to the foundation of the mental health issues and learn to work through them, learn more effective coping strategies, and gain insight into what it means to be a healthy human being.  Psychotropics work as a band aid to get severe symptoms somewhat managed so the person can become actively involved in therapy but as the person's coping strategies, effective cognition, good emotional regulation, and positive behaviors strengthen, taper off the psychotropics until the client doesn't need them any more.  Empirical science has proven over and over again in multiple countries that psychotherapy with a trained licensed psychologist works better than drugs alone or (lifetime) drugs with therapy for continued improvement of symptoms and quality of life.  The whole goal of therapy is to teach the client to become own therapist and effectively work through the things life throws at them.  Don't get me started on Big Pharma, I see them as the main culprit not guns.......

Like Elliot?

No two are ever (a like) ever, perhaps there are some common links but in no way could I ever consider any two (a like).

I've gone through most of the videos and some of the facebook stuff that's available and what I see is a lifetime however short of emotional abuse, poor if not misguided social skills, and no matter what else poor parenting, poor professonal help over many years.

Personally the guy creeps me out using words to describe himself as magnificent and gorgeuos, powerful, I'm sure others came away with similar impressions.

Not knowing what meds he was on but certain there were many.

I agree about the meds whole heartedly, and have no respect for psychotherapy or therapists at all, they certainly missed this call didn't they.

I think he was hoping to die (suicide) by cop by the path he took driving around and his shots were indiscriminate not this blond girl thing, and to be certain his fist victims did not die by the gun.

I dunno, it's just another circus to me, something to talk about, armchair stuff.

I agree with moons and Mindhunt about   Drug them up and it will get them well and solve the problems..!!! NO way

Tyler , or East Texas area has announced their beds are so full of Phychiatric mental patients they are having to ship Heart patients to other hospitals by life flight and Helicophter flites because the beds are full of mental patients with no one place to send tham as all the Mental Institutions are full also.Texas hospital associations have applied to the US government , for help...THAT may be not answered for a long time..IT would serve better if some of these Billionares donate money for a new wing .. THE heart wing in Tyler was redone and built in the Memory of a Longtime Tylerite , Peaches..

Money can be use evidentually we need more places and more direct MENTAL care today than ever before..>WONDER why?

YR

Two Moons, sounds like you have not had good experiences with psychology.  I agree, there are a lot of therapists out there that have no business being a therapist.  I am finishing up my PsyD in clinical psychology and am currently placed at a county Community Mental Health facility for my clinical site.  The new philosophy is "productivity" which translated means profits.  It is cheaper to send the clients to psychiatrists for 15 minutes for med therapy at a reimbursement equal to a psychologist's hour.  Also cheaper to send them to LMHC (Licensed Mental Health Counselors) or LSW (Licenced Social Workers) rather than licensed psychologists, of which there are 3 for the entire facility.   

Questionable parenting does not necessarily mean bad or abusive parenting.  Many parents do the best they know how, love their children, and sometimes it still does not meet the child's needs (from a child's perspective).  Children at a young age are concrete thinkers not able to extrapolate abstract concepts like "my parents still love me even if they are paying more attention to my new baby brother/sister". Then you add in the social arena when children attend school and interact with peer groups.  Family of origin is where children learn their foundation for later social interaction.  I am curious what Elliot's family life was like for him to have the beliefs he had.  How was he raised.  It is not all genes and what you were born with, much of it is environmental.

No one is born bad.

Are you sure about that? I think there are quite a few psycopaths that were born bad. There are science studies of brain imaging that defines them, too.

Now, from what I have read about this guy Elliot, it would seem he felt cheated being the "poor kid" living in the rich neighborhood. Instead of feeling fortunate that some rich lifestyle amenities were made available to him through his parents' associations, he only had resentments that his own bank account balance would be his own doing. That is misplaced entitlement, not bad parenting. He wouldn't take his prescribed drugs, apparently. I certainly don't get the feeling of enabling from his parents, as I did with Nancy Lanza with her son Adam from the information I have read.

I do find the list in the below linked article concerning and frightening. I wonder if the police had the option of a gun possession restraining order, then perhaps there then would be better training, or a recognized need for providing a specialist qualified to make such a determination possible.

 http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/opinion/2014/05/29/rick-sanchez-cut-euphemisms-elliot-rodger-was-crazy-and-belonged-in-asylum/

Actually, he was pretty easy to figure out. He was crazy. His mother told that to the police, but they they didn’t listen.

Police chose to leave him alone. They didn’t take his guns (they didn't see them). They didn’t even take him away. Why? Because, by law, they couldn’t institutionalize him unless he’d already been institutionalized. They problem is we no longer institutionalize. 

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Is it unfair to suggest that all people who consume psychotropic drugs become violent criminals? Of course it is. So instead, let’s consider this list of the most noteworthy violent offenders who were on psychotropic, beginning with a man who tried to kill a president.

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