should breeders be R worded? - Page 1

I know lot of US folks wanna pick up their guns is someone mentions gov regulation but the mess that is commercial dog breeding should we just call it another industry and regulate it's actions by enforceable laws?


Production costs might go up and hence sale costs but the overall costs to society and dog suffering prolly go down.

not talking any specific breed or country.


thoughts??

High volume commercial dog breeders are already regulated. That won't stop the abuse or neglect caused by individuals. How's things your way? No problems for any animals there? Government got all you guys under control?

Our controls are mainly based around bio-security being an island pretty much free of all the major and worst diseases in animals is a good thing in itself obviously and an ever increasing advantage in the world food trade.


So we accept regulation for our own benefit.

our pet dog industry is largely self regulated monitored infrequently and seldom enforced.


this does put our better breeders that "show off" their compliance a market advantage cos they can rightly distinguish themselves from the back yarder and puppy miller.

if any of that makes sense.

So there are roughly 23 mil population in your country, about the same as the state of Texas. That leaves a whole bunch of the rest of th country to even attempt to regulate. In this country at this time, if a breeder is USDA liscenced, that means they are commercial and not someone an individual would want to buy from.
Supposedly, animal control is watching out for animals in bad hands, but it is run by people so is flawed.
Also, your country is not impoverished like so much of this country (the bigger the country/population, the bigger the problems). Poor economy tends to cause people and animals to suffer.

USA has several layers of regulations.
Federal, State, County, City and sometimes Neighborhood.......
We have plenty of regulations, unfortunately they conflict each other in many areas.
It is impossible to adhear to all of them.

I don't understand what Joan says about USDA licensing.

Presumably you mean 'knowledgeable' individuals don't buy

dogs off them,  but other, 'pet' owners do ?  How else would

they stay in business,  just big security or research contracts

or like that ?

Whole sales, HM. To big corporations like Hunte Corp, which sells to retailers but not individuals.

some sell dogs by the hundreds to research labs, some sell them by setting up fake fronts as "rescues", some sell them thru newspapers, thru craigslist and cool looking internet sites.  Others have agreements with pet stores that even though quite a few know where their dogs come from, many more still don't care.  They walk by, see a cute and sickly puppy and buy it on credit for 3K on impulse.  That's what drives the majority of the pet market and regulations aren't going to change it.  Most of those industries are already regulated and it hasn't seemed to slow them down any.  Hasn't seemed to stop hoarders from hoarding, abuser from abusing, commercial breeders from pumping out puppies in cages by the tens of thousands.  

what laws are you proposing? to be enforced?

Rescue and fostering has enabled hoarders to the point where the animals are being re-rescued.

Vk4gsd says...

"I know lot of US folks wanna pick up their guns is someone mentions gov regulation but..." 

Instigatory, VK4? 

You may want to try a softer introduction in the name of international diplomacy-lol. I think it speaks volumes as to the charitable, American character that none have taken you to task so many hours after your questionable post.  Tsk. Tsk.   

Always and ever in good fun,

Bravo22