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Pakistan Kennel

by Pakistan Kennel on 27 March 2014 - 07:03

Q-1 Most of the time we saw some very top ranked dog comes through Cross Breeding n same as for line breeding ? Ratio might be higher on Line breeding side . In which circumstance one should go for cross breeding n Please heighlight the key factor why one go for line breeing (Also mentioned the things keep in mind while for both type of breeding .???
 

kitkat3478

by kitkat3478 on 27 March 2014 - 10:03

Thats a very slippery slope. It all depends on what you are hoping to achieve. I will leave any suggestions on that to the people that are out there in the "profession".
     It all depends on the type dogs you are hoping to produce, and what the intended purpose of them dogs are. I care "nothing" about the show world, nothing. So I cross my lines.
    My goal is healthy , hearty dogs that are capable of anything put to them. I care nothing about the color, just health and temperment
If you are going for the rich red sshowline dogs, you do have your work cut out for you IF you want to produce dogs acceptable for the ring.
     I take that back, you want to go beyond "acceptable" , because what has become acceptable for the showring, really shouldn't be. Your criteria is not the same for show and work, although it should be.
I am very happy to see you trying to shoot for the best. I would love to see you not jyst go with the flow, and while you have the opportunity, if you are going to breed and show these dogs, you do so with great consideration for the breed (as I see you trying...yeah)
    I do not know whose advice you should follow, don't know whose right and who is wrong, but I do know WHAT is right and what is wrong.
I see too many breeders forfeit correct structure, in favor of brighter color, that is just wrong. AND, it isn't just in the showline dogs either. I recently viewed a website offering czech working dogs, and almost wanted to cry. What a shame what little regard some kennels have for the breed as a whole.
    If your goal is to produce nice showline dogs, like that pup you put up, I wish you all the best in your ventures.You have the ability to make a difference, am very pleased to see you trying.

Pakistan Kennel

by Pakistan Kennel on 27 March 2014 - 11:03

Kitkat - Words are not hitting my mind at the moment for such encourging words - Yes you are right ! I m looking for good correct show line dogs n also other then shows i want to produce or want to keep dogs with perfect anotmy - i do not want to produce the dogs which are bad croup - HD-ED issue - faulty bites - etc .

Being a breeder or German Shepherd Lover i want to make my name in good books - When seniors companion like you see my dogs atleast that consider them good - :)

by Ibrahim on 27 March 2014 - 15:03

Excellent post Kitkat

kitkat3478

by kitkat3478 on 28 March 2014 - 01:03

Here is an article that I think you will find interesting PakistanK,
    It just details a little on some old bloodlines, that more than likely you will find some of in your dogs pedigree back several generations.
You will get an idea on what was sought after in different dogs to compliment each other. There are other interesting links on their page.
http://kerschberger.com/QUANTOWIENERAULINE.HTM, 
   sorry I could not make it a clickable link

Pakistan Kennel

by Pakistan Kennel on 28 March 2014 - 12:03

thanks Kitkat No doubt worth reading links - But Still not come with any hard and fast rule - I think experience of difference line while breeding is the only key factor which let to know some one that which Male or Female is top producer and from which combination which may get some thing  best .

Rest is luck ...till the time from reading all the point i understand this point may be right or wrong ...

I think one should focus on best outcome of best anomoty dog with brief expereice of there past line -- Bright chance to get some thing top...


 

by joanro on 28 March 2014 - 13:03

Focus on temperament and nerves, then structure. A dog may have what you deem is the desired structure, but with out the GSD character, what do you have?

Pakistan Kennel

by Pakistan Kennel on 29 March 2014 - 09:03

Thanks Joanro thanks You introduce an other aspect of german shepherd breeding n bring it on first that is interested - But for show line dog a good temprament dog with normal structure ?

Please explain temprament in wider aspect for correct understanding ..

by joanro on 29 March 2014 - 12:03

You must familiarize yourself with the breed standard. Evaluate the dogs you want to incorporate into your breeding honestly and listen to your gut....if the dog does not present as a bold, unintimidated and confident GSd while being challenged in his protection work, you might want to reconsider. If the dog is being used in other work, such as herding, how much does he work correctly on his own. If the dog has sensitivity to loud noises, is milling and acting confused during gun fire test, not a good sign.( Do not depend on just the judge's opinion when evaluating a dog's temperament.) How does the dog behave on shiny surfaces?
A show dog should have the character and strong nerves of a GSD first and for most, since the breed was developed as a working breed and conformation shows have come later. It is possible to produce the correct "show dog" which also has the correct temperament of the GSD.....just don't make compromises or short cuts to the end goal.

Pakistan Kennel

by Pakistan Kennel on 29 March 2014 - 16:03

Thanks again joanro so much got ur point





 


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